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AL East:
Blue Jays
Red Sox
Yankees
Orioles
Rays

AL Central:
Tigers
Royals-x
White Sox
Indians
Twins

AL West:
Angels
Mariners-x
A's
Astros
Rangers

NL East:
Nationals
Marlins
Braves
Mets
Phillies

NL Central:
Cardinals
Pirates-x
Cubs
Reds
Brewers

NL West:
Dodgers
Giants-x
Padres
Dbacks
Rockies
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Jan 28 2015 11:29pm
Jays
Red Sox
Orioles
Yankees
Rays

Tigers
White Sox
Royals
Twins
Indians

Mariners
Rangers
Angels
As
Astros

Nationals
Marlins
Mets
Braves
Phillies

Cardinals
Reds
Pirates
Cubs
Brewers

Dodgers
Giants
Padres
Rockies
Dbacks

NL central is so wide open
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Jan 28 2015 11:30pm
OK Seriousness. With some reasoning because I felt like it.

AL East:
Orioles
Red Sox
Blue Jays
Yankees
Rays

Not a fan of the Orioles but they're the team to beat, best all-around. Red Sox are in good shape but it remains to be seen how Porcello and Miley will do, as well as Masterson and Buchholz.
Jays and Yankees could conceivably swap places, and the Rays rotation is still good enough to get them out of the cellar.

AL Central:
Royals
Tigers
White Sox
Indians
Twins

Moose takes a step up. Rios and Morales will be huge offensive upgrades over Butler and Aoki. Infante's numbers gravitate toward his career average (which are much better than how he did last year). Bullpen remains lights-out. Volquez excels in a large park. Medlen comes back mid-season. If they remain healthy, they'll finally do better then Detroit. Of course, it's also possible Moose, Rios, and Morales all blow and the Royals are where they were last year except without James Shields and a $110M payroll.

AL West:
A's
Angels
Rangers
Mariners
Astros

A's still the team to beat in the division. Worry some outfield though. But the Angels, Rangers, and Mariners all have plenty of roster problems themselves.

AL Wild Card:
Tigers
Angels

NL East:
Nationals
Marlins
Braves
Mets
Phillies

I like the Braves better than the Mets even with all the trades. MLB-ready prospects. Killer bullpen. Potential for one of the best rotations in the league. That alone is enough to keep them floating around the middle of the division. Mets have problems everywhere you look, though if everything goes right they could possibly be much better as well. When do things go right for the Mets?

NL Central:
Cardinals
Cubs
Pirates
Reds
Brewers

Tough but I love the move the Cubs made in the off-season, Cards still remain the team to beat, and I really don't trust a lot of what the Pirates have. They just have way too many things that need to go right. Liriano. Burnett. Alvarez. Can you really count on Vance Worley to repeat anywhere near a 2.8 ERA? Or someone like Josh Harrison who had a career OPS in the 600's before posting one over 800 last year, to repeat? Many of these are possible but most would have to happen for them to win. Reds have the offense to do anything.

NL West:
Dodgers
Giants
Padres
Rockies
Diamondbacks

Dodgers just way too good on paper, but bad things come from underestimating MadBum. I like the Padres. I like their rotation. I like their bullpen. I love their outfield. More question marks in the infield than a 5-man little league team.

NL Wild Card:
Giants
Marlins
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Quote (GoodOleZeus @ Jan 28 2015 10:30pm)
OK Seriousness. With some reasoning because I felt like it.

AL East:
Orioles
Red Sox
Blue Jays
Yankees
Rays

Not a fan of the Orioles but they're the team to beat, best all-around. Red Sox are in good shape but it remains to be seen how Porcello and Miley will do, as well as Masterson and Buchholz.
Jays and Yankees could conceivably swap places, and the Rays rotation is still good enough to get them out of the cellar.

AL Central:
Royals
Tigers
White Sox
Indians
Twins

Moose takes a step up. Rios and Morales will be huge offensive upgrades over Butler and Aoki. Infante's numbers gravitate toward his career average (which are much better than how he did last year). Bullpen remains lights-out. Volquez excels in a large park. Medlen comes back mid-season. If they remain healthy, they'll finally do better then Detroit. Of course, it's also possible Moose, Rios, and Morales all blow and the Royals are where they were last year except without James Shields and a $110M payroll.

AL West:
A's
Angels
Rangers
Mariners
Astros

A's still the team to beat in the division. Worry some outfield though. But the Angels, Rangers, and Mariners all have plenty of roster problems themselves.

AL Wild Card:
Tigers
Angels

NL East:
Nationals
Marlins
Braves
Mets
Phillies

I like the Braves better than the Mets even with all the trades. MLB-ready prospects. Killer bullpen. Potential for one of the best rotations in the league. That alone is enough to keep them floating around the middle of the division. Mets have problems everywhere you look, though if everything goes right they could possibly be much better as well. When do things go right for the Mets?

NL Central:
Cardinals
Cubs
Pirates
Reds
Brewers

Tough but I love the move the Cubs made in the off-season, Cards still remain the team to beat, and I really don't trust a lot of what the Pirates have. They just have way too many things that need to go right. Liriano. Burnett. Alvarez. Can you really count on Vance Worley to repeat anywhere near a 2.8 ERA? Or someone like Josh Harrison who had a career OPS in the 600's before posting one over 800 last year, to repeat? Many of these are possible but most would have to happen for them to win. Reds have the offense to do anything.

NL West:
Dodgers
Giants
Padres
Rockies
Diamondbacks

Dodgers just way too good on paper, but bad things come from underestimating MadBum. I like the Padres. I like their rotation. I like their bullpen. I love their outfield. More question marks in the infield than a 5-man little league team.

NL Wild Card:
Giants
Marlins


lolwat? angels led MLB in RS, despite hamilton being garbage and calhoun missing time. pitching staff is better than it was at the the start of last season. A's got a hell of a lot worse, after acquiring the players they did thinking post season (and leading the division) they lost the division by 10 games, and all those players are now gone, along with other players that cemented that team to begin with.
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Quote (Benny21 @ Jan 28 2015 10:38pm)
LOL FUCKING VOT


These things are such a crap shoot
I think a WS hangover is in order, I think that and the NL central are the biggest toss ups this year.

@ Zues
Never thought they were very good, thought last year was a fluke.
A lot of desperation signings with the royals.
Rios> Aoki
Butler > Morales
Shields > Medlen


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Jan 29 2015 08:40am
Quote (GoodOleZeus @ Jan 28 2015 10:30pm)
Rios and Morales will be huge offensive upgrades over Butler and Aoki.


Good ole Zeus...

I stopped reading here because I was in tears from laughing too hard.
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Quote (Profar @ Jan 29 2015 06:08am)
These things are such a crap shoot
I think a WS hangover is in order, I think that and the NL central are the biggest toss ups this year.

@ Zues
Never thought they were very good, thought last year was a fluke.
A lot of desperation signings with the royals.
Rios> Aoki
Butler > Morales
Shields > Medlen


If medlen is healthy, I'd rather have him than Shields. Even after his first surgery. Dunno about #2 but we will see.
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Jan 29 2015 09:13am
Quote (FLCKennedy @ Jan 29 2015 01:51am)
lolwat? angels led MLB in RS, despite hamilton being garbage and calhoun missing time. pitching staff is better than it was at the the start of last season. A's got a hell of a lot worse, after acquiring the players they did thinking post season (and leading the division) they lost the division by 10 games, and all those players are now gone, along with other players that cemented that team to begin with.


Fair reasoning, and the offense is ridiculous, I am just not yet sold on Garret Richards, Matt Shoemaker, or even CJ Wilson, not to mention Heaney. The middle infield is also the worst its been in a while. Bullpen on the other hand looks to be pretty good. They're a good team, and could very well pass the A's…but they also didn't do much. Traded Howie and traded for Rutledge? What else did they really do? Just by the A's getting Ben Zobrist they had a better off-season than the Angels. But it is close and I see your points.
Quote (Profar @ Jan 29 2015 05:08am)
These things are such a crap shoot
I think a WS hangover is in order, I think that and the NL central are the biggest toss ups this year.

@ Zues
Never thought they were very good, thought last year was a fluke.
A lot of desperation signings with the royals.
Rios> Aoki
Butler > Morales
Shields > Medlen

Quote (suhduelerz @ Jan 29 2015 08:40am)
Good ole Zeus...

I stopped reading here because I was in tears from laughing too hard.



Well it wasn't a fluke..they won 86 games the year before last year and you placing them fourth most likely has them going below 500, which just ain't gonna happen, especially in this division.

Rios is much better than Aoki, offensively. He had a 800+ OPS before he got injured last year at mid-season, so even amongst the worst year of his career he really wasn't as bad as you think.

As a whole, Butler is probably better, but a 100% healthy Butler did horrible last year. I guarantee Morales does much better this year than Butler last year (that doesn't exactly mean Morales is better, heck Butler may do better than Morales this season, which would be much better than 2014 Butler). And that alone was my reason for saying Morales > Butler. Comparing it to the 2014 Royals, the 2015 Royals will be much better offensively.

Shields is much more durable than Medlen, but if you put them both together healthy, Medlen's stuff is arguably better. He is also the 6th starter, a real crapshoot but could end up being the Shields replacement. Either way, the Royals have the best all-around team in the division. They've already been ranked as the #1 bullpen and #1 defense going into 2015, they have a just outside top-10 farm system with MLB ready prospects, their offense is going to be much better than the one that got them to the World Series, and there is depth all around.

Then again, I probably came on here at the same point last year and tried to argue similar things about the Royals, but just go back and see how many people besides myself thought KC won the Shields trade? How many people besides myself thought KC would make the postseason? Did I not say Duffy was great? Did I not say Ventura was great? Did I not say they had the #1 bullpen and #1 defense at that point? The reactions of y'all are the same every year, so if you want something to laugh at, Just take a look at the Mariners outfield...or the Mariners infield outside of Cano...Or the Mariners rotation outside of Felix and Iwakuma...or the Mariners bullpen...or the fact they haven't finished less than 10 games back in the division in nearly a fucking decade.
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Jan 29 2015 09:16am
Quote (xVitality @ Jan 29 2015 09:09am)
If medlen is healthy, I'd rather have him than Shields. Even after his first surgery. Dunno about #2 but we will see.


We're talking about this season, a healthy shields > Medlen
Medlen doesn't even pitch till ASB that's why I rank them so low.
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