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Jan 25 2022 06:25pm
Ortiz got a 77% vote while Bonds, Clemens, and Sosa all failed to get in on their final year.


Fuck the scrubs!


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Jan 26 2022 11:13pm
Clemens said he didn’t give a shit 10 years ago
Bonds was too much of a dick to get in, let alone his PED issue
Sosa had zero chance of getting in because again of the PED case
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Ortiz took steroids
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Feb 3 2022 12:15pm
They are all scrubs compared to ken griffey jr anyway
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Ortiz is bullshit imo.

But I still want them to let all them in, but make it a thing.

2023 is a horrible ballet. Let it be the year of the Steroid Inclusion.

The Following Players are in the Baseball HOF in the PED wing. They deserve to be in, but have a negative stigma. Put them all in together, all in the same area.

Barry Bonds
Roger Clemens
Sammy Sosa
Mark McGuire
Rafael Palmeiro
Alex Rodriguez

All are 500+ HR, a couple 3,000 Hits, 300 Wins. Things that should have been automatic clinchers.

I know most hate Rafael, but the numbers say he should be in.
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Feb 3 2022 01:31pm
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They are all scrubs compared to ken griffey jr anyway


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Ortiz is bullshit imo.

But I still want them to let all them in, but make it a thing.

2023 is a horrible ballet. Let it be the year of the Steroid Inclusion.

The Following Players are in the Baseball HOF in the PED wing. They deserve to be in, but have a negative stigma. Put them all in together, all in the same area.

Barry Bonds
Roger Clemens
Sammy Sosa
Mark McGuire
Rafael Palmeiro
Alex Rodriguez

All are 500+ HR, a couple 3,000 Hits, 300 Wins. Things that should have been automatic clinchers.

I know most hate Rafael, but the numbers say he should be in.


They don't deserve to be in.
Do you think Sosa, McGuire, and Bonds would have broke records if they didn't use? No.
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They don't deserve to be in.
Do you think Sosa, McGuire, and Bonds would have broke records if they didn't use? No.


Its tough. Do I think they hit 66hr and such no. But do I think Maybe they still get to 500 yea.

But, If you were around in the late 90s, Big Mac and Sosa were Baseball for a couple years. Maybe because im in Illinois, but those two helped baseball get viewers. Hate them or not for the PED use, I enjoy watching baseball. Im have no issues with what they did. It was for entertainment. Plus, I dont really believe 95% of the league is clean.

The game wouldn't be where it was 98-2004 with out those 3 players. Take morals out, they deserved to be remembered in baseball for their contributions.

I know few will agree with me.
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Its tough. Do I think they hit 66hr and such no. But do I think Maybe they still get to 500 yea.

But, If you were around in the late 90s, Big Mac and Sosa were Baseball for a couple years. Maybe because im in Illinois, but those two helped baseball get viewers. Hate them or not for the PED use, I enjoy watching baseball. Im have no issues with what they did. It was for entertainment. Plus, I dont really believe 95% of the league is clean.

The game wouldn't be where it was 98-2004 with out those 3 players. Take morals out, they deserved to be remembered in baseball for their contributions.

I know few will agree with me.


I've played baseball since I was 4 and I absolutely love watching baseball.
Yes they were entertaining, yes they brought in viewers, but the fact they broke records while cheating tarnishes their reputation.


The M's had Brett Boone, who juiced up every game lol, and he was awesome to watch. But just because you're entertaining doesn't mean you're a HoFer.
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I've played baseball since I was 4 and I absolutely love watching baseball.
Yes they were entertaining, yes they brought in viewers, but the fact they broke records while cheating tarnishes their reputation.


The M's had Brett Boone, who juiced up every game lol, and he was awesome to watch. But just because you're entertaining doesn't mean you're a HoFer.


Agreed, but the stats back up they should be in the HOF.

Just because someone beat their wife or kid, is a bad role model doesnt mean you should take their accomplishments on the field away.

I know Ill never win arguments, but I would rather watch Corked Bat Roided up players than the current game.

A 4 hour game 5-3 with combined 34 Strikeouts and 8 hits is just boring. Baseball needs to change to bring in viewers but to shit on the players who helped build the league up is in poor taste.

do you truly believe PED or Not, Clemens and Bonds are worse than Jack Morris and Harold Baines?


Im fine the voters left them off a voted ballot, but I do believe they deserve to be in the HOF. They still managed to produce the stats. Just simply say, we have a dead ball era wing, we have a PED accusation wing in the HOF. These guys are all hall worthy but weren't voted in for Positive Tests, or the assumption they did take enhancements. But the game of baseball would not be where it is today without them.
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Agreed, but the stats back up they should be in the HOF.

Just because someone beat their wife or kid, is a bad role model doesnt mean you should take their accomplishments on the field away.

I know Ill never win arguments, but I would rather watch Corked Bat Roided up players than the current game.

A 4 hour game 5-3 with combined 34 Strikeouts and 8 hits is just boring. Baseball needs to change to bring in viewers but to shit on the players who helped build the league up is in poor taste.

do you truly believe PED or Not, Clemens and Bonds are worse than Jack Morris and Harold Baines?


Im fine the voters left them off a voted ballot, but I do believe they deserve to be in the HOF. They still managed to produce the stats. Just simply say, we have a dead ball era wing, we have a PED accusation wing in the HOF. These guys are all hall worthy but weren't voted in for Positive Tests, or the assumption they did take enhancements. But the game of baseball would not be where it is today without them.


I think Bonds is a fucking shit bag and doesn't deserve to even have his name mentioned for the HoF.
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