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Oct 25 2012 11:06am
Quote (Portmouth @ 25 Oct 2012 00:57)
please link me the threads of every other rider whos dick you have jumped on than please.

Lance has never tested positive, they have not released the report. You are just jumping on the witch hunt kid


have you been living under a rock? seriously, learn to read!
not only what i wrote (about his positive tests) but also the newspaper / internet articles or maybe the parts of the USADA report (which has been released 2 weeks ago!) that have been published:

http://cyclinginvestigation.usada.org/

well, guess it takes a deluded american fanboy to stand by one of the biggest cheats in sports history...

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Oct 26 2012 08:08am
Quote (Portmouth @ Oct 24 2012 06:57pm)
please link me the threads of every other rider whos dick you have jumped on than please.

Lance has never tested positive, they have not released the report. You are just jumping on the witch hunt kid


Well for one, Lance is dirty as hell, just like any other cyclist. I don't even know why they call it a sport anymore, but regarding your other comment:

The guy is German, what did you expect? Angry at the world and especially angry at Americans.
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Quote (MNhockey @ 26 Oct 2012 15:08)
Well for one, Lance is dirty as hell, just like any other cyclist. I don't even know why they call it a sport anymore, but regarding your other comment:

The guy is German, what did you expect? Angry at the world and especially angry at Americans.


calm down man, there is no need to be upset.
and i'm not angry at anyone. i'm just calling obviously deluded and ignorant people deluded and ignorant. when they are american, that's not my problem. there are stupid people in every country, please stop these generalizations....
facts, not hate... learn the difference, my little friend...
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Oct 27 2012 04:27pm
the Tours won't go to the second placed (most of them were banned anyway lol), they will be left without a winner
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Oct 28 2012 05:22pm
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the Tours won't go to the second placed (most of them were banned anyway lol), they will be left without a winner


a very good decision imo.

how do you feel about contador / indurain defending armstrong? i think it's outrageous.
i mean, i understand contador's motivation - as someone who's lost his tour de france title for the same reason, he can surely relate to that but indurain? wasn't he clean?
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Oct 29 2012 08:14am
Quote (fender @ Oct 29 2012 12:22am)
a very good decision imo.

how do you feel about contador / indurain defending armstrong? i think it's outrageous.
i mean, i understand contador's motivation - as someone who's lost his tour de france title for the same reason, he can surely relate to that but indurain? wasn't he clean?


well from what I've seen them say, they are not defending his innocence, they are saying that the press shouldn't butcher him the way they have, some parts of the media have been trying to hurt Lance through his personal life



and Contador is clean, even when they banned him they said the amount they found was so low it couldn't have had any efect, he was banned for testing positive not for doping himself :(

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Oct 29 2012 10:52am
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well from what I've seen them say, they are not defending his innocence, they are saying that the press shouldn't butcher him the way they have, some parts of the media have been trying to hurt Lance through his personal life

and Contador is clean, even when they banned him they said the amount they found was so low it couldn't have had any efect, he was banned for testing positive not for doping himself :(


you've got to be kidding me? contator clean? so you buy his little "contaminated meat" story? funny how every single (of almost 15,000) test of spanish meat has been clean and that ONE piece, a professional cyclist eats is contaminated with clenbuterol...

well, just goes to show that for many people it just takes a countryman / fan to buy their flimsy excuses... so maybe ullrich was clean, too and should be the winner of the tdf 2000, 2001 & 2003? i'm starting to believe him...
nah, i'm just kidding, he's as dirty as armstrong and contador...

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Oct 29 2012 11:03am
Quote (fender @ Oct 29 2012 05:52pm)
you've got to be kidding me? contator clean? so you buy his little "contaminated meat" story? funny how every single (of almost 15,000) test of spanish meat has been clean and that ONE piece, a professional cyclist eats is contaminated with clenbuterol...

well, just goes to show that for many people it just takes a countryman / fan to buy their flimsy excuses... so maybe ullrich was clean, too and should be the winner of the tdf 2000, 2001 & 2003? i'm starting to believe him...
nah, i'm just kidding, he's as dirty as armstrong and contador...


but why would he dope himself if it wasn't going to do any effect? it doesn't make sense to take just enough clenbuterol to test positive but not enough to improve affect your performance in anyway

there are other succesful spanish cyclists that have cheated, but I don't think Contador has
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Oct 29 2012 11:39am
Quote (zarkadon @ 29 Oct 2012 18:03)
but why would he dope himself if it wasn't going to do any effect? it doesn't make sense to take just enough clenbuterol to test positive but not enough to improve affect your performance in anyway

there are other succesful spanish cyclists that have cheated, but I don't think Contador has


what they FOUND was not enough to enhance performance. but what if they tested 24 hours earlier? would be ridiculously stupid to risk getting banned for a non performance-enhancing dose due to questionable food.
and i assure you, ALL cyclists (and also their managers / staff / cooks) are too aware of this (since they all have to sign contracts that result in a ban for even minuscule amounts), to risk eating dubious food.

no, it's much more likely that either dr. fuentes miscalculated, contador accidentally took too much or his metabolism was just a little off that day so traces were still in his system... way more likely than the tainted meat conspiracy.

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