ignorance is bliss...
let me guess, you're american?

He's got a point. Everyone (and by that I mean upwards of 90% of all riders) dope, but you single out one rider just because he beat everyone else? That's pretty pathetic. And unlike clear cut cases like Zabel, Ulrich etc. this one isn't all that clear.
Do I think he doped? Heck yes. Did he cheat? Cheating is giving yourself an unfair advantage. Every contender in his time doped so was that advantage unfair? Not so clear cut any more is it.

Doping or not, he's been the most successful rider of recent times, say what you will. Singling him out won't change that fact.

you just keep making the same pathetic excuses over and over again...

this is a threat about him because he FINALLY was banned for cheating. feel free to make a thread about any other cheater if you feel it's unfair to "single him out".
all the other cheaters are dirtbags, too. i never said anything else. the difference is that he keeps denying although it is obvious to anyone who isn't completely ignorant or just a deluded fanboy...

and he will never be a champ / icon / hero / rolemodel because he i a cheat. yes, the honest ones are few and mostly unknown. they are the bottle carriers, the ones that are told to close a gap or attack and when they have done their job finish 10+ minutes after the main guys. but they are the real heroes here.
i'd like to see the best of them compete against a clean armstrong / contador / ullrich / vinokourov - that would have been much closer than many of you seem to think.

don't get me wrong, i'm not saying armstrong was a bad cyclist or anything. i'm pretty sure he could have become one of the greatest in a clean sport but that is something we will never know because he chose to cheat...
and as a person he's incredibly arrogant and corrupt... i can't believe so many people are still making excuses for him...

Not in the mood to make thousands of topics for every unclean rider. The "sport" is dead, and rightfully so.

This. Hockey+Football+Basketball+Baseball. Are all much more interesting then some dopers in bicycling. Most likely any person you're a fan of in biking dopes. Hop off lances dick.

honestly I don't really care about cycling anymore; there's been so much unfair shit with cyclists that have been doping themselves not being caught or banned, while other clean cyclists have gotten unfairly banned... this sport is so stained now, it's hard to say who is a fair champ and who isn't, it's a shame.

I don't know much about the details of Lance's case, nor am I particularly interested in them anymore, I just hope that whatever is decided is the right and fair outcome.

Can't say I would mind seeing Indurain back at the top, but it would be a sad day for the world of sports if Lance is declared guilty.

ye, way to much.

This post was edited by Invictum on Oct 11 2012 01:52pm

lol, this guy wants to hop on his dick asap, so he's kindly asking you to get off!




he's a cheater. even if i competed in a sport where most people cheated (haha this makes me think of diablo 2) I would still not cheat. Why? Because it's against the rules and you'd have to be a dickhead to do it.

people that defend cheaters (ie this reckreation fag) are often prone to cheating themselves. it's like cheaters back each other up so they can obscure the reality that they are a piece of shit.



saying it's okay because everyone else does it is the pathetic factor here - grow a pair (lol, or just 1) and play legit, according to the RULES.

Europeans are just as ignorant as Americans, if not more so.