If this were a real team he'd only play like 15 minutes. I think he could do that well. Injuries are always a concern though. I'd be hoping the reduced minutes could offset that a bit

Opponents shot a little over 10% less from 0-3 feet when guarded by Biyombo. He's a beast. And his defensive perimeter stats were also very respectable. He is a very underrated offensive rebounder, too, one of the best in the NBA this season and actually better than TT I think.

biyombo is overrated

My take...

Ibaka may have regressed but Greg Monroe is just bad in today's NBA. He's definitely talented but just doesn't help teams win games.

Bogut is easily better than biyombo. Biyombo made his money against a whitesideless heat and a small ball cavs. That being said... I do think biyombo is a good pick for a team who only needs him out there for 15 minutes a game. Plus he's younger than bogut and healthier.

Edit: I was completely wrong about harass' pick

This post was edited by TUAlumni on Jun 6 2016 03:35am

fuck I hate draft beer.

Dang, Ariza was a good pick

Would anyone be opposed to doing 13 rounds for retirement insurance?

Or no?

Edit: it obviously benefits those picking first being an odd number but just figured I'd throw it out. Gives picking an older player less of a risk.

This post was edited by TUAlumni on Jun 6 2016 06:19am

In what context?

Opponents shoot 10.1% from 0-3 feet when guarded by him. That makes him one of the elite rim protectors in the NBA.

Opponents shoot 9.0%less from 4-16 feet when guarded by him. So he can step out and guard.

13th in offensive rebound %. Everyone knows about the defense, but he is one of the best offensive rebounders in the NBA.

5th in total rebound %. One of the best rebounders in the NBA. 2nd in block % behind Hassan Whiteside, block % isn't the best measure of defense but still, only one player better.

And this was his regular season numbers. We all saw him explode in the postseason.

He's only 23 (maybe 24 lol.) He's going to get better and he has a lot of potential. Like I said, Bogut is better right now but his body is falling apart and he's steadily playing less minutes.

I'd rather go with Biyomobo, who is also an elite rim protector and a one of the best rebounders (offensive and defensive) in the NBA and isn't as good of a passer but I know won't just fall apart on me. Bogut misses about 15-20 games a season in a good year and is constantly dealing with pain. He's 31 and in 3 years I'm not sure where he will be. His minutes have declined every year. Whereas Biyombo I think he will actually improve not get potentially get worse.

I'm not going to get too into it but like I said... Bogut is the better player. Defensively he can bang down low. Offensively he moves well and is great with ball movement whereas biyombo just seems lost. I think biyombo took great advantage of his opportunity against inferior 'centers' and will get paid well for it. Then next year we will see who he truly is in a full time role

Like I said though, the best argument for biyombo is he's younger and less injured than bogut.

All the stats I mentioned were over 81 games from the regular season. Large sample size.

Plus Bogut will decline and Biyombo will improve.

That said Bogut was a very good pick and great value where Haras got him. He shouldnt have dropped that far, when you look at remaining centers and want a rim protector with upside they are basically gone now.

Bogut vs Biyombo was what I was considering but I decided to go with improvement over decline and missing games due to injury. Bogut misses 15-20 in a good year. That's a lot of lost value with potnential for more.

But I figured I shouldnt pick Biyombo because no one would check out the synergy stats and people would call him overrated. Perception matters. But when I wanted a big who could alter shots at the rim and rebound at an elite level and be durable because so many bigs go down and had upside, he was the choice.

Again, -10.1% from 0-3 feet. Elite rim protection.