d2jsp
Log InRegister
d2jsp Forums > Off-Topic > Sports Coliseum > Usa > Can. > Hockey
Prev12345Next
Add Reply New Topic New Poll
Member
Posts: 33,000
Joined: Sep 8 2008
Gold: 11,061.00
Mar 1 2010 11:06pm
Quote (dvlpup89 @ Mar 1 2010 09:05pm)
Lol I'm a moron, yet you don't think placing in the top 3 in the world matters.
Going to let you sit and think about your line of reasoning. That should be punishment enough.


2nd and 3rd place are consolation prices. They're as good as a participation ribbon.
Member
Posts: 2,768
Joined: Nov 12 2006
Gold: 888.00
Mar 1 2010 11:36pm
Quote (LooseyGoosey11 @ Mar 1 2010 11:06pm)
2nd and 3rd place are consolation prices. They're as good as a participation ribbon.


Lol
2nd place out of millions is a consolation? You must have a lot of gold medals yourself to believe that.
Member
Posts: 54,736
Joined: Jun 5 2006
Gold: 1,463.83
Mar 1 2010 11:39pm
Quote (GodAres @ Mar 1 2010 04:22am)
Oh sorry I was out enjoying not being obligated to pay for everyones healthcare, while not waiting 3 months for heart surgery that could save my life.

and making x4 more money then you can possibly make in just about any profession.  Oh and I almost forgot protecting you while im at it.

Cry


Credibility?



This post was edited by majorblood on Mar 1 2010 11:41pm
Member
Posts: 2,768
Joined: Nov 12 2006
Gold: 888.00
Mar 1 2010 11:56pm
Quote (majorblood @ Mar 1 2010 11:39pm)
Credibility?

http://i46.tinypic.com/b879zk.png


http://www.suite101.com/article.cfm/libertarian/107549/2

Quote
All these phenomena are also observed when comparing with other countries. Only 5% of Americans wait more than four months to receive surgery, compared to 23% in Australia, 27% in Canada, 26% in New Zealand, and 38% in the UK ("Comparison of Health Care System Views and Experiences in Five Nations, 2001", Commonwealth Fund 2001 International Health Policy Survey).

Read more at Suite101: The oxymoron of 'universal health care'http://www.suite101.com/article.cfm/libertarian/107549/2#ixzz0gzo3okXf


Quote
This is perverse thinking, but the premise itself is utterly wrong. Public health care is not "universal". The masses are stuck with a sub-standard health care system, and the rich pay to go to the United States, or other countries, for better treatment. Doctors also leave in droves because of the lower salaries and bad working conditions. The system is only universal insofar that the state has universal control either way (through immigration control, if you leave). If the United States sabotages its own health care system by socializing it, the same thing will happen.

I've made some bold claims, which people who do not live in Canada, the UK, Sweden, or a country where socialized medicine is prominent, might doubt. But Canada is a good example of its failure, since it is the country that monopolizes health care the most. Also, Canada spends the most on health care of all OECD nations (on an age-adjusted basis). But it has inferior technology available.
Member
Posts: 54,736
Joined: Jun 5 2006
Gold: 1,463.83
Mar 2 2010 12:10am
i would suppose the american average does not factually reflect people who do not get injured - i mean the 7,920$ is a average never actually met, since people either pay for their surgery[ridiculously expensive] or dont at all.

our system profits the most the poor, yours the rich.

our rich can go to your country for surgery so i suppose it works out for both, except your poor.

This post was edited by majorblood on Mar 2 2010 12:13am
Member
Posts: 2,768
Joined: Nov 12 2006
Gold: 888.00
Mar 2 2010 12:25am
Quote (majorblood @ Mar 2 2010 12:10am)
i would suppose the american average does not factually reflect people who do not get injured - i mean the 7,920$ is a average never actually met, since people either pay for their surgery[ridiculously expensive] or dont at all.

our system profits the most the poor, yours the rich.

our rich can go to your country for surgery so i suppose it works out for both, except your poor.


Your system can not benefit people as well as ours because you lack technology.
We're poor.... yet have vastly superior medical technology. Of course it's going to cost more.

Having private healthcare creates competition, driving the advancement of technology.
With universal healthcare doctors work day and night to treat an ever-continuing line of patients. But despite their best efforts,
your yearly salary remains so similar to that of your neighbor doctor.
And because everybody has an equal chance, there is no medical priority... and half of the patients you look at are not cases at all,
but an overreaction from a concerned mother.

"1. Establishing a Universal Healthcare system will reduce the quality and drive, as well as flexibility of our healthcare due to lack of competition."
Banned
Posts: 25
Joined: Mar 1 2010
Gold: 0.00
Warn: 10%
Mar 2 2010 12:46am
@dvlpup89 How does it feel losing to Canada after you made those racial remarks about people from Quebec?
Member
Posts: 2,768
Joined: Nov 12 2006
Gold: 888.00
Mar 2 2010 12:57am
Quote (Cummer69 @ Mar 2 2010 12:46am)
@dvlpup89 How does it feel losing to Canada after you made those racial remarks about people from Quebec?


Lol I made racial remarks about people from Quebec?
Member
Posts: 54,736
Joined: Jun 5 2006
Gold: 1,463.83
Mar 2 2010 01:25am
Quote (dvlpup89 @ Mar 1 2010 10:25pm)
Your system can not benefit people as well as ours because you lack technology.
We're poor.... yet have vastly superior medical technology. Of course it's going to cost more.

Having private healthcare creates competition, driving the advancement of technology.
With universal healthcare doctors work day and night to treat an ever-continuing line of patients. But despite their best efforts,
your yearly salary remains so similar to that of your neighbor doctor.
And because everybody has an equal chance, there is no medical priority... and half of the patients you look at are not cases at all,
but an overreaction from a concerned mother.

"1. Establishing a Universal Healthcare system will reduce the quality and drive, as well as flexibility of our healthcare due to lack of competition."


I think either you don't understand the difference between you're and your or you think I may not.

I understand the libertarian argument of competition being an advocate in the advancement of technology, but it seems as though you're missing or not understanding my point. The American system and Canadian health-care system can co-exist somewhat functionally. Both have the individual problems. The poor greater benefit from the Canadian system, while the opposite is true in the American.

But onto a secondary point... The biggest problem with your[America's] system is the unduly regulations behind the education necessary to become a doctor. A doctor in America that wants to specialize in something specific(say vision) must attain the qualifications to preform all fields. This means the doctor who prescribes your glasses technically has the ability to preform brain surgery. These unnecessary regulations are sky-rocketing the costs of university education for such practices of medicine, which in turn raises the price of surgery, etc. If such regulations were removed, or at least lowered, the number of lesser doctors[said modestly] would vastly increase. This would create your competition and would make healthcare so much more affordable for the average citizen.

I do think you have the basics for a better system, it just has some major flaws.

This post was edited by majorblood on Mar 2 2010 01:27am
Banned
Posts: 7,233
Joined: Feb 26 2010
Gold: Locked
Trader: Scammer
Warn: 10%
Mar 2 2010 03:56am
Quote (Psyclwn @ Feb 28 2010 10:09pm)
GOLD!!!!!!!!!


just failed sir ;)
Go Back To Sports Coliseum Topic List
Prev12345Next
Add Reply New Topic New Poll