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Dec 11 2012 10:09am
This Raley kid is just an angry 16 year old who's mom gave him a BB gun for Christmas last year and now he's acting like he's a boss hog gangster on the internet because he shot a bird out of a tree in his backyard on the first day he had it. Now he thinks he's a hunter because he's shooting rabbits with his dad and acting a fool murdering any animal that he can, probably because he gets picked on in high school every day.
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Dec 11 2012 10:16am
Quote (Maclin @ Dec 11 2012 11:09am)
This Raley kid is just an angry 16 year old who's mom gave him a BB gun for Christmas last year and now he's acting like he's a boss hog gangster on the internet because he shot a bird out of a tree in his backyard on the first day he had it. Now he thinks he's a hunter because he's shooting rabbits with his dad and acting a fool murdering any animal that he can, probably because he gets picked on in high school every day.


You're probably just a convicted felon that is not allowed to own a weapon and therefore you're bitter that others can go out and hunt while you have to do your "hunting" at Walmart.
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Dec 11 2012 10:42am
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You're probably just a convicted felon that is not allowed to own a weapon and therefore you're bitter that others can go out and hunt while you have to do your "hunting" at Walmart.


Irony coming from the uneducated hillbilly that kills rabbits and prays on weak forms of life because he got bullied all through school and can't even handle a deer let alone a rabbit or squirrel rofl
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Dec 11 2012 11:01am
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Irony coming from the uneducated hillbilly that kills rabbits and prays on weak forms of life because he got bullied all through school and can't even handle a deer let alone a rabbit or squirrel rofl


I know you're from Mississippi and not all that bright, quite dumb actually, but I thought we've discussed this topic at length.

No education (no high school diploma) = uneducated
Education (graduated from high school, college and grad school) = educated

One applies to you, the other one applies to me. Wanna take a guess as which one applies to you?


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hill·bil·ly 
Noun
derogatory. An unsophisticated country person, associated originally with the remote regions of the Appalachians.

I thought you were from the South and had to hunt for survival. I live in a metropolitan area with a population of roughly 3.3 million people. Not really what you consider country, unlike Mississippi.


Funny how you keep trying to insult me but you ultimately just insult yourself.

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Dec 11 2012 11:15am
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I know you're from Mississippi and not all that bright, quite dumb actually, but I thought we've discussed this topic at length.

No education (no high school diploma) = uneducated
Education (graduated from high school, college and grad school) = educated

One applies to you, the other one applies to me. Wanna take a guess as which one applies to you?



I thought you were from the South and had to hunt for survival. I live in a metropolitan area with a population of roughly 3.3 million people. Not really what you consider country, unlike Mississippi.


Funny how you keep trying to insult me but you ultimately just insult yourself.


This kid rolf
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Dec 11 2012 11:49am
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I blew up any argument for hunting on the first page, and everyone has been grasping for straws ever since

You can be independent, sure. No one is saying you can't. But what gives a human the right to go out into the animals habitat where it isn't harming anyone, and kill it? Meanwhile if any type of animal were to come into your land and kill a human, there would be a massive hunt to put the thing done.

Again, we are not the ignorant ones here, you guys are stuck in the old ways and can't see that the world has evolved


I laughed out loud at how ridiculous you sound here.

Ok, first of all, the bold: At the end of the day, this is an issue of rights. You claim to have "blown up" all the pro-hunting arguments but in reality you haven't even scratched the surface of what the hunting debate is truly about. First you need to derive the concept of rights (something you have not done), and then explain how that makes hunting immoral. By saying that hunting is somehow immoral, you have actually made a huge philosophical claim, and have completely failed to back it up on a philosophical level. What are rights, why do humans have rights, and can concept of rights extend to animals? Those are the questions you should be focusing on.

And about "being stuck in the old ways blah blah blah..." you're just emphasizing what I said in my own post, which is that you guys are little fascists, wanting everyone else to adapt to some kind of "modern" standard for living, because you have determined that this standard is the "correct" one to live by.

You're out of your league son, stick to debating about men in tights throwing around an egg shaped ball.

LOL and I just dug up this little gem from earlier in the thread: "I already explained this, hunting is not your primary source of food therefore this is irrelevant"
You're so god damn stupid it hurts. Who are you to decide what people's primary source of food should be? You know better what people should eat than they do? Maybe some people find more value in hunting their own food? Maybe a single elk can feed a whole family for a year? Maybe it's way more affordable and fresh game tastes better? Maybe some people don't like to shop at supermarkets? These are all subjective value judgments based on people's individual situations and preferences. Who are you to determine what other people should be eating, how much they should pay for their food and how they should acquire it? Little fascist.

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Dec 11 2012 12:45pm
Quote (Raley @ Dec 10 2012 08:14pm)
Alright here are the points you do not want to look at and or are ignorant to.
A few examples of animals that destroy corn fields, soybean fields, and gardens are Raccoons, Deer, Squirrels, and Turkey. Why does this matter?  If these animals are destroying whole crops the farmers then have to charge more for these goods thus charging everyone else more for these goods as well and bi produces of these goods.
We constantly invade these animals homes causing them to come into our homes, cities, and streets. Why does this matter? There are approximately 1.5 million car accidents caused by deer and elk per year according to State Farm.
Why do people hunt animals? Its sporting ( yes look at the definition don’t like it then get the dictionary changed), you cannot legally buy these meats, these meats are not sold in stores, with humans (like yourself) living in houses that have taken over these animal habitats these animals are forced to live closer together than they are meant to. This causes disease such as but not limited to Mange, Canine Parvovirus, Rabies, and Chronic Wasting Disease to spread among the animals faster and more commonly. Most of these disease cause vary painful deaths for the animals.
I have made my point about how ignorant and one sided you are about this. I don’t care if you don’t hunt or don’t like hunting or hunters but the facts are facts and hunters are needed.



Also for any of you who believe animals are defenseless then please do tell me why are humans the only ones born with out a way to protect themselves? We have a higher thinking power than the animals that allow us to come up with tools to use to hunt animals that they have better scenes than we have. All other animals also have a shorter growth period than humans. You can not put a 1 year old child vs a 1 year old animal and the child win.



oh snap ive got a 14 year old coming at me


there are multiple ways to prevent animals from harming your crops. Hunting is just one of many and EASILY the least humane out of the options. So because people are shitty drivers and hit deer, we have to go hunt them? Thats nonsense

Overpopulation of deer is a complete myth. Its non existant, if anything their population is dwindling because of hunters and deforestation. Look at you preaching about saving them from a painful death. Should i go grab my four five and clap you up real quick because eventually you will die? Am i morally correct for killing a human because its inevitable that they will suffer in the future? Maybe that will let you know how ridiculous you sound using that argument.

and yes, animals are defenseless. Maybe if you were a respectable hunter like maclin who uses no weapon the deer would have a chance
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Dec 11 2012 12:49pm
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Dec 11 2012 12:52pm
Quote (Paran0id @ Dec 11 2012 01:49pm)
I laughed out loud at how ridiculous you sound here.

Ok, first of all, the bold: At the end of the day, this is an issue of rights. You claim to have "blown up" all the pro-hunting arguments but in reality you haven't even scratched the surface of what the hunting debate is truly about. First you need to derive the concept of rights (something you have not done), and then explain how that makes hunting immoral. By saying that hunting is somehow immoral, you have actually made a huge philosophical claim, and have completely failed to back it up on a philosophical level. What are rights, why do humans have rights, and can concept of rights extend to animals? Those are the questions you should be focusing on.

And about "being stuck in the old ways blah blah blah..." you're just emphasizing what I said in my own post, which is that you guys are little fascists, wanting everyone else to adapt to some kind of "modern" standard for living, because you have determined that this standard is the "correct" one to live by.

You're out of your league son, stick to debating about men in tights throwing around an egg shaped ball.

LOL and I just dug up this little gem from earlier in the thread: "I already explained this, hunting is not your primary source of food therefore this is irrelevant"
You're so god damn stupid it hurts. Who are you to decide what people's primary source of food should be? You know better what people should eat than they do? Maybe some people find more value in hunting their own food? Maybe a single elk can feed a whole family for a year? Maybe it's way more affordable and fresh game tastes better? Maybe some people don't like to shop at supermarkets? These are all subjective value judgments based on people's individual situations and preferences. Who are you to determine what other people should be eating, how much they should pay for their food and how they should acquire it? Little fascist.


look at this fucking nerd throwing out all these big words trying to make it appear like he isn't some backwoods hick lmfao
Took him a whole day to look up everything in a dictionary so he can appear educated.

You wanna talk rights? It can be summed up in one quick statement. If I can kill an animal with no consequences then I should be able to kill a human with no consequences.

Yes, the modern standard for living is the correct one to live by. It is proven to be more efficient, and those who don't adapt are left in the dust and become completely irrelevant to the world. If you wanna be a 3rd would country then by all means continue to be ignorant and barbaric and act like hunting is an acceptable act.

fuck football. worst sport ever

and yes, hunting is no one on jsps primary source of food. I know this, you know it, everyone knows it. Its obvious. No one with internet access is going day to day with the thought of "Will I find dinner tonight when I go hunt". You are a grade A retard if someone told you this and you believed it.
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Dec 11 2012 12:58pm
I wonder when those fucking hippies realize that everytime you consume meat that you hunted, you reduce the demand for store-bought meat.
But of course those animals are treated more humanely than animals that lived their life freely and had a quick, stressless (unless Maclin hunted them of course) death.



Thank you hippster preachers, I think I'm going to get myself some chicken wings instead of self shot duck breast. Downside is that it is less healthy, less tasty, less fresh, but at least the animals were treated better, right?
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