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Nov 6 2012 11:30pm
Quote (llo @ Nov 5 2012 02:34am)
Is that a bad thing cuz I have two! More weight for me to carry around.


This. Those 40g make a difference going up a hill.
Besides he took enough testosterone to make up for 10 balls.
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Nov 11 2012 01:04pm
i pesonally like lance armstrong. seems like a decent guy cheater o not
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Nov 11 2012 01:17pm

from his twitter: "back in austin and just layin' around..."



no regret, no remorse, no decency - provocation, that's his answer.
what an immature, self-righteous and disgraceful person he is, really pathetic...
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Nov 11 2012 04:35pm
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from his twitter: "back in austin and just layin' around..."

http://stat.mobli.com/media_stills/media_22700756.jpg

no regret, no remorse, no decency - provocation, that's his answer.
what an immature, self-righteous and disgraceful person he is, really pathetic...


lol, he gets to keep them?
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lol, he gets to keep them?


i think so, and why not? should he burn them or who else should get them? maybe the tour de france? anyway, i see no problem with that.
but i have a problem with him keeping his prize money, his endorsement money and especially his arrogant attitude...

This post was edited by fender on Nov 11 2012 04:43pm
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Quote (fender @ Nov 11 2012 11:43pm)
i think so, and why not? should he burn them or who else should get them? maybe the tour de france? anyway, i see no problem with that.
but i have a problem with him keeping his prize money, his endorsement money and especially his arrogant attitude...


he should be forced to return them to the Tour imo (the money too ofc)
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Nov 12 2012 08:33am
still no solid proof of him doping besides the words of other dopers

and even if he did cheat the money he raised for cancer research by far outweighs anything he did wrong

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still no solid proof of him doping besides the words of other dopers

and even if he did cheat the money he raised for cancer research by far outweighs anything he did wrong


we don't live in a utilitarianist society
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Quote (kargus @ 12 Nov 2012 15:33)
still no solid proof of him doping besides the words of other dopers

and even if he did cheat the money he raised for cancer research by far outweighs anything he did wrong


no solid proof my ass - can you read? http://cyclinginvestigation.usada.org/


raising money for cancer research is great, no doubt - but don't you see the problem?

the popularity that allowed him to do so, the nice house he lives in, the millions of dollars he made, all the nice things that allow him to lean back and say: i don't give a f*ck (although he obviously does) - look, i still got my jerseys and my delusional fans, i'm a cancer survivor - i'm invincible...
all that he achieved by not only taking epo, hgh, testosterone, corticosteroids, blood transfusions but also forcing his whole team to do so. by bribing officials and paying hundreds of thousands to doping doctors. what a great man...

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Quote (fender @ Nov 12 2012 06:20pm)
raising money for cancer research is great, no doubt - but don't you see the problem?

the popularity that allowed him to do so,(...) all that he achieved by not only taking epo, hgh, testosterone, corticosteroids, blood transfusions but also forcing his whole team to do so. by bribing officials and paying hundreds of thousands to doping doctors. what a great man...


So what you're saying is that he was able to raise more money for cancer research because he was dirty.

Ethical? Probably not.
Did it help more than it hurt? Oh, you bet it did.

I am glad you came to that conclusion yourself. Now that we have a proper end to this story maybe we can let this topic die in peace instead of dragging it on, and on, and on.
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