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Jul 29 2012 04:30pm
but phelps' 7 gold medals and 6 world records in 2008 were legit, huh?
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Jul 29 2012 04:32pm
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but phelps' 7 gold medals and 6 world records in 2008 were legit, huh?


8 gold medals*
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Jul 29 2012 04:38pm
Quote (fender @ Jul 29 2012 06:30pm)
but phelps' 7 gold medals and 6 world records in 2008 were legit, huh?




Phelps only used one performance enhancing drug.
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Jul 30 2012 10:38am
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Jul 30 2012 01:33pm
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Oh Yeah Incredible - 16 years old and smashes the Wolrd Record by over a second and beats her own personal best by 6 seconds ?
Seems like the ever lying deceiving cheating Chinese have found yet another new superdrug that can't be detected at tests. They are shameless and a massive stain on the honour of the Olympics.


youre clearly a fucking retard...
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Jul 31 2012 07:42pm
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youre clearly a fucking retard...


not rly.

I was watching CTV olympics on TV and they are talking about the possibility that she was doping because her performance is such an outlier. They don't deny that "legit" outliers can exist, but you can't help but question the possibility that she was doping. They went on to say that it is very rare that people get caught doping because of masking and proper usage. But they also said that they keep the samples for 8 years and even if science today can't detect doping, it is possible that science of the future will be able to. So 8 years from now this performance could be stricken from Olympic records.

They are comparing her performance to that of a 16 year old girl beating Usain Bolt.

There is even public skepticism within the sport about her performance (e.g. by officials).
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Jul 31 2012 08:41pm
http://live.wsj.com/video/why-china-athletes-are-defying-expectations/8DEF8F81-53DD-4285-AE60-2FD5EEA8F1F6.html

watch that, its just about 7 minutes, and the guy will talk about china's history and mentality that i think is very enlighting and wanted to share with you all.
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Jul 31 2012 09:19pm
that's just not cool...breeding athletes and basically enslaving them from a very young age to compete in sports chosen for them. they are soldiers. they may not be passionate about their sport but they do it for their country. they are like robots.
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Jul 31 2012 11:18pm
well, its not our definition of an athlete that's for sure, but i still think they have passion. It may come from a national pride only and not of a sporting self achievement sort, but passion is passion, these people set out to achieve their goal just like our athletes, their motives are just different. Its like, the goal has a different clause in it: instead of something like, i like swimming, i got good at swimming, i developed a passion for competing in the water, im going to the Olympics!! im going to do my best to represent my country. Its more like: i was born with a possible path in mind, i was trained at a young age, i am good at swimming, my country needs me to compete at the Olympics, it is my duty to represent my country.

But thats just a look at it from the individuals side. In America we have the odp, Olympic development program. basically a large scouting and then cream of the drop trainning deal. In china, they've gotten a little more serious. Trying to produce likely strong babies serious..... all the kids in china that attend a schooling that has a P.E. sort of thing are measured and if you score high on things, then opd like people come and you are moved to start training to represent your country. Its still an honor, its just a different mentality behind it. It does seem in my eyes, more for one's country than one's self, something we associated to a soldiers sacrifice and honor; but you can still see the passion in those athletes when they win gold for their country just like when ours(USA) take home gold for the united states. that guy from china slapped the water and roared after winning gold, how many times have you seen phelps slap the water and roar??? passion is passion, i believe the Olympic games have been bringing it out of the human since it started and in doing so, showed us that its not the sport that matters, its the pride and human spirit to compete that is at stake at these games.
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Aug 1 2012 03:48am
Quote (SeaBas @ Jul 28 2012 05:40pm)
I'd be really surprised if China wouldn't take the highest number of medals at the Olympics by quite a margin in 2 or 3 editions.

They probably will take most now even.

People don't respect their athletes as much it seems but that's just because they don't speak English at all so they can't really tell their story on international tv and in media.


Honestly, if China doesnt take the most medals they are a failure of a nation. They have 4-5 times the population of the USA, which is a huge advantage haha
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