Quote (Juicy_J @ Jun 22 2013 10:31pm)

I'm sticking with Juha Bach, because that name is fucking awful.

Quote (Austin @ 22 Jun 2013 23:01)

It's not his name though and is a very bad name his actual name is so much better.

Quote (mcbatch @ Jun 23 2013 09:41pm)

I thin your the odd one out here

Quote (Charity @ Jun 22 2013 01:01pm)

Hrm i assumed he just used the quincy powers as a base seeing as how it is a shinigami(zanpakto) reforging process. I just took it to mean he didnt resent juha bach enough to throw away his powers.

You could be right though, maybe the 1000 years ago fall out meant that juha bach was accepted and may have had his quincy powers turned into that sword he uses(or is that just a steel schnider with his reiatsu around it).

The way juha bach accepted ichigo and let him which basically means power him up leads me to believe the fall out was caused by the soul king + shinigamis and that the soul king is actually evil or maybe a shinigami who did what aizen did. Also the commander being a part of it, having died now, means that they dont have to fight him on their way to confronting the soul king.

Quote (Charity @ Jun 22 2013 08:45pm)

Hrm 2 post back to back Oh yeah!

Did juha bach develop the bankai stealing from suppressing ichigo all this time?

Alright clearly juha bach states only he could control the 1st immense power...is ichigo above said power and will it again only be him who can?

Ichigo reiatsu forces his sword to always be in shikai so what we saw was shikai or was it bankai?

the zero division guy said that ichigo has zangetsus so osd may be correct and they are actually 1 quincy blade and 1 shinigami blade...question is how do they refer to the 8th and 13th captain swords if anyone cares to look. I do believe they have one name for both though.



I know but like maito gai was changed to might guy(this was done officially not a bad translation) i still say the name i like more.

Quote (Austin @ 23 Jun 2013 01:01)

It's not his name though and is a very bad name his actual name is so much better.

Quote (OsD @ Jun 24 2013 02:14am)

basically this is what i think juha bach did. He, or someone close to him created that bankai stealing technique, that has nothing to do with ichigo.
What we do know is that Juha Bach left ichigo alive, for no apparent reason, and that he has some of his reiatsu or something inside him, from what i understand, this power was actually suppressing ichigo's shinigami powers by suppressing the hollow, now that it is no longer using its powers to hold back the hollow, it can be formed into a sword and thus we have the sword.

Juha Bach is also the only person who can control captain commanders bankai (after one use of it already), But he cannot takes ichigo's for some reason (possibly because he has CC's bankai)

Quote (Juicy_J @ Jun 24 2013 11:41am)

Well, that's his name to me. I can't justify calling him Yhwach because again, that name is fucking stupid.

Quote (Charity @ Jun 24 2013 11:00am)

where was it stated he cant take ichigos? The reason he left alive is due to him being a quincy and gaining juha bachs respect i assume. all that other stuf you wrote is what is in the manga so dunno why you said it again.

Juha bach 1000 years ago fled in some fashion then after 999years he gained everything back, why did he wait to do this take over of heuco mundo and attack on soul society? he let both ishida(isnt he impure why wasnt his powers stolen?) and ichigo(same as ishida why? he doesnt believe in hurting innocent kids?) grow up so ichigo being partial soul reaper would be great for him to develop that bankai stealing shit.



...if anything you can justify calling him juha bach. How cant you justify calling the dude by his name? its well...his name lol.

Quote (Charity @ 24 Jun 2013 13:00)

where was it stated he cant take ichigos? The reason he left alive is due to him being a quincy and gaining juha bachs respect i assume. all that other stuf you wrote is what is in the manga so dunno why you said it again.

Juha bach 1000 years ago fled in some fashion then after 999years he gained everything back, why did he wait to do this take over of heuco mundo and attack on soul society? he let both ishida(isnt he impure why wasnt his powers stolen?) and ichigo(same as ishida why? he doesnt believe in hurting innocent kids?) grow up so ichigo being partial soul reaper would be great for him to develop that bankai stealing shit.



...if anything you can justify calling him juha bach. How cant you justify calling the dude by his name? its well...his name lol.

Quote (Austin @ 21 Jun 2013 09:36)

Thats probably what the hole in the big sword is for.

Quote (Austin @ 21 Jun 2013 11:19)

He doesn't like his zanpakuto when he faught Tousen and the Shark epsada he brought it up.  He hates to fight like Kira does.

"Why do u Shingami think u can beat us" (Shark epsada) 
"I have to fight to protect and since I'm a shingami I must." (Hisagi during the shark epsada fight)

Zarakai's Shikai is already cool looking I can't wait to see his banaki also.

Na, the only thing close to Zarkai saying that is when he held his broken sword up after and asked for it's name.  So yea made it. ^^