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Jun 9 2011 11:28pm
Quote (Size @ Jun 9 2011 09:23pm)
That makes absolutely no sense
Just go and take your rand with you


It does actually.

A lot of the ideas were still being developed so things changed alot. I just watched the fight with the 3rd vs the 1st and 2nd and it was so ridiculous.

They all did nothing impressive by todays standards in Naruto. Like Sarutobi took out both the second and first with explosive tags at one point lol. And the third got restrained by a basic wood technique. Nowadays everyone has insane jutsu and crap and the battles are more impressive.

They mostly used taijutsu back then

Also did they ever mention who was in the third coffin that orochimaru was reviving? It can't be the fourth

I think thats another example of how the whole thing wasn't completely thought out at the time.

They made it seem as though the 3rd coffin would bring back the fourth, but later on they said that people that have their souls already bound can't be summoned

This post was edited by MonK-Gabe on Jun 9 2011 11:30pm
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Jun 10 2011 12:12am
Quote (mbfmog @ Jun 9 2011 10:14pm)
itachi and kisame didnt try against jiraiya due to fact that their characters were stilll not well thought out yet
obviously if you bring shippuden into this, itachi could easily slam jiraiya with susanoo and kisame in his samehada form

sage mode is voided due to fact that jiraiya could hardly maintain it and had to use frogs to help him use it


you are completely retarded sir. kisame is trash he was raped by gai sensei and jiraiya is 1100000000000000000000000000000000000 times better than gai sensei, even itachi was scared from jiraiya, jiraiya was one of the strongest mofos out there.

and about the hokage first hokage>third hokage enough said
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Jun 10 2011 01:26am
Quote (MonK-Gabe @ 10 Jun 2011 07:28)
It does actually.

A lot of the ideas were still being developed so things changed alot. I just watched the fight with the 3rd vs the 1st and 2nd and it was so ridiculous.

They all did nothing impressive by todays standards in Naruto. Like Sarutobi took out both the second and first with explosive tags at one point lol. And the third got restrained by a basic wood technique. Nowadays everyone has insane jutsu and crap and the battles are more impressive.

They mostly used taijutsu back then

Also did they ever mention who was in the third coffin that orochimaru was reviving? It can't be the fourth

I think thats another example of how the whole thing wasn't completely thought out at the time.

They made it seem as though the 3rd coffin would bring back the fourth, but later on they said that people that have their souls already bound can't be summoned


thats true how it is
Orochimaru tried to revive the 3rd but it was impossible for him
he didnt know that he was sealed in the inside of naruto
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Jun 10 2011 01:48am
Quote (Size @ Jun 9 2011 11:10pm)
For the simple fact that the 3rd lost to orochimaru and Jiraiya was stronger than orochimaru
It was also said somewhere not sure where tho

Also Sage mode>

Itachi and Kisame werent even going to try Jiraiya at the SAME TIME cos they knew they would lose, yet Itachi can beat Orochimaru and Orochimaru can beat the 3rd


comparing strength like this isnt viable honestly

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Jun 10 2011 01:49am
Quote (hanspeter5 @ Jun 10 2011 02:26am)
thats true how it is
Orochimaru tried to revive the 3rd but it was impossible for him
he didnt know that he was sealed in the inside of naruto


i think you man the 4th and no the 4th isnt sealed in naruto the 4ths soul is in the death god a little of the 4ths chakara was in naruto be is all gone now
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Jun 10 2011 02:25pm
Quote (MonK-Gabe @ Jun 9 2011 07:56pm)
Yet you just assumed a bunch of shit yourself.

What do you know about the 1st? he fucking dominated the wars he fought.


Yes the 3rd was kage at the time but it was Minato who fucking carried the village through that war. Flee on sight orders were given for Minato.

We already said that our arguments are pure speculation. So whats your point?

Also it was mentioned already that we understood that we know absolutely nothing to little about every single fucking person were talking about


your right, everything i said was speculation, that being said, i only typed it to prove to people that they have not one ounce of proof that the first was stronger
that being said..

wasn't orochimaru the one that facepalmed tsunade + jiraiya.. with no hands... i mean really.
people dont give orochimaru enough credit, the only reason he got facepalmed was because he was up against the OP sharingan + sasuke is a main character
i believe orochimaru could have easily facepalmed most of the akatsuki. I actually believe he coulda taken sage mode jiraiya and they would be either even, or jiraiya is a tad stronger
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Jun 10 2011 02:28pm
Quote (OsD @ Jun 10 2011 02:25pm)
your right, everything i said was speculation, that being said, i only typed it to prove to people that they have not one ounce of proof that the first was stronger
that being said..

wasn't orochimaru the one that facepalmed tsunade + jiraiya.. with no hands... i mean really.
people dont give orochimaru enough credit, the only reason he got facepalmed was because he was up against the OP sharingan + sasuke is a main character
i believe orochimaru could have easily facepalmed most of the akatsuki. I actually believe he coulda taken sage mode jiraiya and they would be either even, or jiraiya is a tad stronger


Jiraiya was messed up because of drugs, and tsunade is hardly a ninja... more of a medic...

Just saying it before other people get pissed and start talking shit because of it...

I'm pretttttty sure strength is inconsistent in Naruto and people are as strong as they have to be to overcome certain obstacles, if they aren't strong enough, then they just pull some B.S. out of their ass...
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Jun 10 2011 03:15pm
Quote (MonK-Gabe @ 9 Jun 2011 22:28)
It does actually.

A lot of the ideas were still being developed so things changed alot. I just watched the fight with the 3rd vs the 1st and 2nd and it was so ridiculous.

They all did nothing impressive by todays standards in Naruto. Like Sarutobi took out both the second and first with explosive tags at one point lol. And the third got restrained by a basic wood technique. Nowadays everyone has insane jutsu and crap and the battles are more impressive.

They mostly used taijutsu back then

Also did they ever mention who was in the third coffin that orochimaru was reviving? It can't be the fourth

I think thats another example of how the whole thing wasn't completely thought out at the time.

They made it seem as though the 3rd coffin would bring back the fourth, but later on they said that people that have their souls already bound can't be summoned


well kabuto explained that oro failed to summon the 4th when fighting the third

also when u guys r saying cuz oro beat third and itachi beat him etc r u talking about when they wer in there primes or when they died???

cuz it was stated that third is the strongest hokage and hasirama was the strongest of his time

like cmon sarutobi took out ginkaku and wateveer the other guys name is by himself sooo idk im going by what the manga says as in the 3rd was the strongest hokage (in his prime)
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Jun 10 2011 04:56pm
Quote (Size @ Jun 10 2011 12:10am)
For the simple fact that the 3rd lost to orochimaru and Jiraiya was stronger than orochimaru
It was also said somewhere not sure where tho

Also Sage mode>

Itachi and Kisame werent even going to try Jiraiya at the SAME TIME cos they knew they would lose, yet Itachi can beat Orochimaru and Orochimaru can beat the 3rd




3rd didnt lose to orochimaru, he sacraficed himself to protect konoha u retard. not to mention he was fighting the first and second hokages aswell as orochimaru.

the only reason orochimaru couldnt touch itachi was because of sharingan and genjutsu. otherwise orochimaru woulda raped itachi
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Jun 10 2011 05:13pm
Can't we all just get along?
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