But counter to that, Madara was also prepared for everything.

In the end it seems what itachi said about Madara was true. Hes just a loser lol

And also you said about generations getting stronger

The 3rd trained Jiraiya
Jiraiya trained the 4th

Jiraiya was stronger then the 3rd, and the 4th was stronger then jiraiya

why would u even bring jiraiya in the conversation

Because he trained the 4th and you said the 4th sucked?
And it all comes into it as saying the 3rd isnt the best kage
Can you read?

and hes a sanin

you say that the 3rd is a ant to the first
i completely disagree.
i think the 3rd was on point if not greater than the first
WHAT DO YOU KNOW ABOUT THE THIRD? exactly absolutely nothing
what do we know about the first? HE CREATED THE LEAF? so the fuck what? the third lead the leaf village through a shinobi war, not only that we only saw him when he was older.
the fact that you guys are assuming all of this bull is amazing

u just fucked urself with the info

so what if jiraiya trained the 4th
all jiraiya taught him that was notable was rasengan
and summoning the toads
4th came up with all his other stuff



whyudojmypms

i responded

Yet you just assumed a bunch of shit yourself.

What do you know about the 1st? he fucking dominated the wars he fought.


Yes the 3rd was kage at the time but it was Minato who fucking carried the village through that war. Flee on sight orders were given for Minato.

We already said that our arguments are pure speculation. So whats your point?

Also it was mentioned already that we understood that we know absolutely nothing to little about every single fucking person were talking about

This post was edited by MonK-Gabe on Jun 9 2011 09:58pm