idk probably nobody because the gem already denaounced aizen as his master or watever what urahara said if it wasent for ichigo being more powerful than aizen....

not sure if serious....

ichigo surpassed aizen he was stronger than him the whole god damn battle.

what your saying is ichigo was weaker than him because he didnt kill him?

realize im saying everything in past tense ichigo ofc atm is not as strong as he was. but he was clearly stronger than aizen during the time of the fight how the fuck do you not understand this????????

your saying your 1 minute logic am i to understand you are only talking about when he went mugetsu?? he was more powerful than aizen the second he got there to the point he lost his powers from using final getsuga

either way this is not going to be resolved

He never surpassed Aizen, he did at the star of the fight until Aizen morphed more. When he went into Final Getsuga Tensho he had the upper hand for a little bit of time thats it. Aizen was still involving and growning stronger until Ichigo overpowered him for a brief second then lost his ablities. Ichigo never could of beat Aizen the way he was. All he was able to do is dely enough time and weaken Aizen a little bit for Urahara's trap to kick in. This was Isshen's and Urahara's plan from the start after they figured out they could not defeat Aizen as he kept growning in strength.

This post was edited by Austin on Jan 31 2013 01:25pm

Ummm Aizen couldn't comprehend Ichigo's power even in his evolved form. Just stop.

more like Ichigo was definitely stronger, but he made a dumbass move by throwing away his powers for one shot.

this.
ichigo was clearly the stronger of the two, but he underestimated aizen's regen abilities.

as for the whole ichigo just needed to delay him, he use that ability in his final form that immediately wiped him of his power.

ichigo was by far stronger and supperior, he just wasn't as smart as aizen, and he made a stupid mistake.

how is this even an argument when aizen even said he couldn't sense ichigo's power because he had surpassed him by such a large amount?

Finally some people who don't lack common sense.

How do you surpass a immortal being that can multiply his power levels over and over again? You can`t. Use your common sense.. the more the fight lasts the more powerfull Aizen gets.. eventually he would have figure out about the 'power gap' and evolve again...And the fact that Aizen survived his "ultimate' attack proves everything. ( ah.. in theory that attack didnt even work as it was supposed to be... since aizen was sealed thanks to urahara plans.)


ps: again.. think out of the box... not for those 2 minutes of the show where ichigo went bananas and broke aizen trust in himself and thus getting to hogyoku betray him.

well like you just said ichigo was so strong the gem decided hes not worthy to be his master and would have stoped all of his upgrades

what i am saying is ichigo was momentarily stronger than aizen yes i agreed to that however before the battle was over after using his final technique ichigo was weaker..... aizen then was sealed by urahara how hard is that to understand

yes momentarily during the fight ichigo went above aizen however before the conclusion and had it not been for urahara ichigo was weaker and would have died to aizen....

its not that hard to understand

LOL sigh even without the damn gem aizen was still stronger than everyone except the commander who he already had down the sealing from urahara was what saved everyone except zero division/soul king. aizen only lost the powers the gem gave him not what he had before the gem

of course that doesnt mean urahara with his brains couldnt stop aizen

you guys who keep saying aizen surpassed aizen YES momentarily

when ichigo arrived he was already fused with his sword at the hand wasnt he so their was probably no turning back...he had to already be in the process of releasing the final otherwise it made no sense for him to lose his powers



This post was edited by Charity on Jan 31 2013 08:22pm

Okay lets think outside of the box. Ichigo is so powerful the king of souls fell for him.
Ichigo is so powerful the hougyoku would prefer to have Ichigo as it's user. (probably)
Ichigo is so powerful soul society always relies on him.
Ichigo is so powerful he is the main character.


This post was edited by Vicc on Jan 31 2013 08:26pm