Quote (Charity @ 16 Jan 2013 18:38)
Its still speculation i mean even that yammato is the strongest in the manga(shinigami wise, i would assume the spirit king has him beat and if he turns out to be evil it shouldnt be power that outplays him but liek aizen some sort of strategy). in terms of using databooks i mean that just means they meet the necessary requirements it really comes down to experience and the matchups ofc logically speaking luck plays a huge role too. however yes i do believe with this new revelation of her being the first kenpachi and so ruthless while roaming around with the commander its a pretty safe assumption to put her in the top 3(i do believe aizen beats her, this is from his own words or actually of his lack of words) aizen said kisuke was the only one who intellectually bested him and i do believe the commander in terms of battle prowess(this is very vague as he just didnt mention being "afraid" of anyone else)
Hrm wonder how ichigo got his zanpakto is it just an offshoot of rukias meh questions questions questions!
ishida/ichigos family/fullbringer(specifically when the hell did book of the end dude die)/soul king/aizen/bankais/other vizards/quincies/juha and commander story/unohana/kenpachi lots of lovely things this is shaping up to be an amazing end!
Ah, didn't consider Aizen. Yeah I'd say Aizen is second only to the captain commander.
Quote (OsD @ 16 Jan 2013 19:26)
GOD I HOPE ZARAKI DIES. FUCK! UNOHANA >>>>
now that i got that outta my system
i don't think either of them will die, they are far to important in the story to die now. I will burn my computer if one of those 2 dies before komamura
(speculation mode: On)
Unohana has always been #2 i called it years ago (literally). if not the strongest.
I would like to agree with the person who said that no one in 1000 years has been born stronger then Captain commander.
He may have been a ruthless leader, but truth be told he isn't the strongest of his time. It was said that he used every advantage in his possession before the academy came to be, just like Aizen, he was strategically smart and he was overpoweredly strong at the same time. I mean he just got his ass handed to him by Juha Bach, he isn't that strong. I would put him on equal footing to Unohana and Zaraki after they go bloodthirsty beserker mode. God i hope we see more cool stuff from those 2, they are signal handedly keeping the manga going for me.
Apparently shunsui knows a whole damn lot about soul society's history. Not only that, it looks like hes got that ruthless attitude that captain commander had. Looks like he's going to be serving a can of whoop ass soon. If Shunsui is as smart as i think he is, Ukitake must be a whole lot smarter and he must know just as much as Shunsui. Looks like those 2 will be very key in later episodes.
I just realized, if only a few people have truly mastered their zanpakuto, who has done it...
ALSO: i forgot to say that if kisuke knows about that 0 divison healing guy's methods.. then he should know a lot more also. Chances are he's the smartest and biggest enigma the manga has right now. he's has knowledge that half the captains don't even know.. more then half i should actually say. He's met and trained with many 0 divison members, even making counterfits of some of their methods. Not only that he has Yoruichi and ichigos dad for muscle. and more resource. thumbs up for him.
I think it's pretty clear that Yamamoto was pretty much considered a god as far as strength goes. There's a reason Aizen made that little bastard that sealed away his zanpakuto. He knew that if it came down to Yamamoto standing in the way of his plans, he was going to be defeated. Aizen couldn't even overpower that fire prison Yamamoto used on him when he got to Karakura Town.
Now, what's more open for speculation is how Yamamoto would have measured up to Aizen after his final few transformations and Ichigo in final getsugatenshou mode. I for one believe that Aizen and Ichigo, at the time of their fight, were the strongest beings we have seen in this story thus far, with Ichigo taking the #1 spot overall. Clearly none of the fullbringers could even hold a candle to Ichigo when he had his shinigami powers. I think Ichigo in standard form is a lot stronger than he used to be, but still not as strong as he was at that moment. If we don't see that form again (which we shouldn't, why would he lose his powers twice) then I would stick to my theory that it was the pinnacle of strength in the series.