if he was one of greatswordsman why he riped just from wather dragon and lvl 1 sharingan? about kakazu.. its was 3-4 vs 1 LOL!, naruto destroyed 2 hearts by one hit byhimself..i dont say he`s not strong... hes a teamplayer... but on 1 vs 1... whit ataksuki... he have no chances....remember how Itachi removed him from battle in 1 min... whithout using advanced sharingan powers...

he used the mangekyou agaisnt him 0.0
+ kakashi didnt get his mangekyou yet, now that he has he should stand a chance ><

lol? he used tsych w/e that thing is called... his world technique... that is an advanced sharingan technique.... itachi is overrated, he's stronger than 90% of the ppl in akatsuki....



lol... naruto killed a couple akatsuki, sakura took out sasori... so that means kakashi can take them out too lol, considering they couldn't even touch him in the bell rematch challenge..........and it won't matter, that's kakashi using his mangekyou... anyone with a sharingan can rape deidara....kakashi is a mixture of itachi+shikamaru+gai sensei



lol he could whip out susano for all you know

This post was edited by Cyba on Oct 12 2008 07:55pm

umm no sakura only lived because she knew how to cure the poison which ofc kakashi doesn't....

Wow.. huge arguments here.. but eveyone forgot a few details..

Kakashi is a genius with a weak body, and low chakra, compared to most others. He admitted to having 1/4-5 of naruto's. His fighting ability is probably on par with most Akatsuki members with his new given sharingan.

Sakura had help from the grandma to beat sasori, not to mention it was implied that he purposely took those hits to the heart.

Deidara died from self destructing.

Itachi intended to die by sasuke.

Most of akatsuki died of their own accord, not to mention they had 2 immortal bodies in the group.

wrong. Sakura won because Chiyo helped her dodge attacks. She wouldnt ahve won vs his first puppet if chiyo wasnt there. She is strong enough to crush it but she wasnt near fast enough to dodge his attacks without help. Even if she did manage to get past him, theres no way she could fend off the kazekage w/ iron sand.

I honestly think kakashi could win vs a few akatsuki. I would vouch kakashi vs sasori since he had mangekyo sharingan and a chidori could probably break through the puppets bodys, getting a hit wouldnt be to difficult.



He got pwned by water dragon because he pinned him to a tree and shot his arms and legs up w/ kunai. U cant do much w/ knifes cutting into the tendons in ur limbs =/



I dont think hes on class with Kisame since Kisame specializes in water attacks like freakey shark thing and he can make his own lake in an instant =/ not to mention is nearly infinit amount of chakra. Neji was about ready to crap himself lookin @ his chakra, and that was only a clone w/ 25% of his total. He said he was on par w/ narutos chakra when viewing the clone, so id say he has probably as much chakra as naruto has during 4+ tails.

This post was edited by Thor123422 on Oct 12 2008 09:15pm

ok, that means Sasuke is most powerfull now.. since itachi gave him hes powers..he made that ultimate eye tehnique ...so how come that eight tailed beast owner escaped unharmed from hes most powerfull atack?If i am not rong... amateratsu was suposed to be the greater eye tehnique..
Dont say me because he lost 2-3 tails... that was a diversion... so he can escape from hes brother/country




dude...Kakashi havent Stamina.. thats hes weekness..after using 2-3 times sharingan he`s OUt!You talking about a bell chalange vs a *real fight* ROFL! i dont think they tryed to won whit all their power...kakashi is more old.. experimented...thats the only reason he won..



THere you got your answer.. how come he`s so powerfull but he got beated by some knifes and a wather copy tehnique...this not sound resonable...

watch the first 20 episodes again.... all zabuza did was water attacks.



kakashi has sharingan to avoid the poison to begin with? chiyo said herself you need a lot of fighting experience to dodge the attacks... not only have kakashi been in the great ninja war, he's also been in many battles and has more than enough experience to last him a lifetime.



i don't think itachi gave sasuke all his powers... i think he just gave him amaterasu to defend against tobi.



that made no sense lol.... use better english please.



speak english please.

He didn't really get beaten by the swords,+ he wasnt trying to kill the people only Ganzo cause he killed w/e the kids name was (cant remember atm) kakashi had alrdy weakened zabuza by using his sharingan to copy the mist and having his ninja pups attack him, Zabuza also died on his own accord having nothing to live 4 since w/e the kids name was had died trying to protect him
He jst wanted to die beside him. You forget Zabuza was the demon of the mist and killed anbus for fun. He certainly was no pushover.
and dam go back to 3rd grade spelling

This post was edited by Onceamule on Oct 13 2008 06:01am

So much hate going on in here lol. Is all this really that important? Why do people insist on fighting over who is stronger than who?

I will say one thing though. Kakashi can probably take out close to any enemy he is up against. He is almost as smart as Shikamaru and is really strong for not having the chakra reserve like some of the other ninjas. His battles normally don't last too long because of this. No one should belittle Kakashi.