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Jul 24 2008 09:48pm
Quote (Niteriche @ Fri, Jul 25 2008, 12:44am)
let's see then...

zaraki lost to ichigo, ichigo didn't even know bankai
next part seen is ichigo flying around and about to rescue rukia, with ukitake and byakuya standing there, of which ukitake says specifically that his reitsu is that of a captains, and that was in shinkai form before he learned bankai.
next is against byakuya, where he does almost keep up with byakuya's bankai in only his shinkai form. and last i checked, byakuya was registered as one of the top captains.

granted, aizen is obviously more powerful than the average captain, but i think it's pretty obviously that ichigo could rape the normal captain. if anything, he could keep up with normal captains bankai's in his shinkai form. so which captain besides aizen would ichigo have trouble with? the rest of them we can't really tell since we haven't really seen anyones full extents except for byakuya, soi fon, zaraki, tousin, hitsugaya, komamoru,and mayuri. i think it's safe to say that ichigo can beat any one of these pretty easilly, since zaraki beat both tousin and komamoru at the same time, and ichigo beat zaraki. soi fon and mayuri can't be directly associated with him being they haven't faced him yet (not counting ep181 since he wasn't trying ofc), but i think we can register as ichigo is stronger than uyuu, who beat mayuri, and it would be up in the air again'st soi fon until ichigo hits hollow.

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It was a draw with zaraki even if zaraki said that ichigo won; ichigo would have most likely died if he wasn't healed. This is irrelevant anyway ; you can't compare 2 fighters indirectly. If a beats b and c beats a then that doesn't necesarely mean c can beat b as well. It's all about matchups , who can cope better against an oponents abilities.

In the fight with byakuya , they both underestimated eachother; ichigo got cocky when he wouldn't stand a chance against bankai , byakuya didn't want to believe ichigo had bankai , byakuya didn't expect ichigo to turn to a hollow just before the finishing blow etc
My guess is shunsui(the lazy captain) is of similar strenght and of course the commander general.

Quote (Vicc @ Fri, Jul 25 2008, 02:06am)
teaching newbies huh?
heheh


newbie to what

This post was edited by Shadow_lad on Jul 24 2008 09:49pm
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Jul 24 2008 10:23pm
Quote (Paintball91 @ Thu, Jul 24 2008, 10:30pm)
did you just come in here and tell us a fucking manga spoiler? zaraki beat espada #5 and byakuya beat #7? what do you mean by that? is this from the manga, if so get the fuck off now. dont come back in this forum with manga spoilers in an anime episode thread.


Calm your Self Down Would you?? it Wasnt My Goal To Spoil it.I was giving an opinion and I thought that everyone was reading the manga As well.

Beside i didn Said how and what were the abilities/true Form of the other espada, So you Dont really know what will happen, It isnt a Great Punch because you already know that they will win when they start the Fight...
Im sorry, as i said i thought that everyone was reading the manga >.<
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Jul 25 2008 12:10am
Quote (DieNcry @ Thu, Jul 24 2008, 11:23pm)
Calm your Self Down Would you?? it Wasnt My Goal To Spoil it.I was giving an opinion  and I thought that everyone was reading the manga As well.

Beside i didn Said how and what were the abilities/true Form of the other espada, So you Dont really know what will happen, It isnt a Great Punch because you already know that they will win when they start the Fight...
Im sorry, as i said i thought that everyone was reading the manga >.<


ALOT of people in here dont read manga and prefer the anime instead.. i am one. i dont read any mangas id rather watch the anime for it. hence why there is a MANGA and EPISODE thread.. MANGA does not belong in EPISODE.
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Jul 25 2008 12:24am
it would be true in some instances, yes. but not in this one. zaraki beat the 2 captains on pure reitsu alone, and ichigo apparently has higher amounts of it. the battle between zaraki and ichigo was a draw because ichigo was in shikai. although he doesn't get as significant as maybe others, he still does get a reitsu increase when he releases bankai, not including the massive speed increase. i'm sure he would figure out how to beat those captains just as the others had before him. regardless of seeming stupid, he's got instincts in fighting at least...

i'm not trying to jump on the ichigo badass bandwagon here, but i'm at least trying to be honest from what seemed quite obvious to me...

die- i don't read the manga, and i agree with paintball when i think very few actually do.

i never thought i'd get into a discussion about anything on bleach....sheesh...
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Quote (Paintball91 @ Thu, Jul 24 2008, 09:30pm)
did you just come in here and tell us a fucking manga spoiler? zaraki beat espada #5 and byakuya beat #7? what do you mean by that? is this from the manga, if so get the fuck off now. dont come back in this forum with manga spoilers in an anime episode thread.


ouch accidental spoiler.

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Jul 25 2008 09:15pm
Quote (Shadow_lad @ Thu, Jul 24 2008, 05:20pm)
no he isn't , he can';t beat any of the captains without bankai and he'd have serious problems against some even in hollow form


Byakuya got destroyed by ichigo in hollow form when they fought, and since byakuya is probably one of the stronger captains ichigo should be able to E Z most captains. True, the hollow was in control but now that ichigo can get those powers and keep them under control then he should be even more powerfull.

Quote (Paintball91 @ Thu, Jul 24 2008, 09:30pm)
did you just come in here and tell us a fucking manga spoiler? zaraki beat espada #5 and byakuya beat #7? what do you mean by that? is this from the manga, if so get the fuck off now. dont come back in this forum with manga spoilers in an anime episode thread.


U make me laugh happy.gif

*~*!warning, Episode Spoilers Inside!*~*

He spoiled future episodes. If you dont want any kind of spoilers then dont go where it is discussed.

This post was edited by Thor123422 on Jul 25 2008 09:17pm
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Jul 25 2008 10:06pm
Quote (Thor123422 @ Fri, Jul 25 2008, 08:15pm)
U make me laugh happy.gif

*~*!warning, Episode Spoilers Inside!*~*

He spoiled future episodes.  If you dont want any kind of spoilers then dont go where it is discussed.


I don't agree with that at all :/ This thread is for discussing the Bleach ANIME regardless of the spoiler warnings there should be no talk at all about the manga, it's just a dick move but i'm sure he didn't mean to spoil anything so it's fine the first time :/
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Jul 25 2008 10:16pm
Quote (BuLLsEyE-PwNaGe @ Fri, Jul 25 2008, 11:06pm)
I don't agree with that at all :/ This thread is for discussing the Bleach ANIME regardless of the spoiler warnings there should be no talk at all about the manga, it's just a dick move but i'm sure he didn't mean to spoil anything so it's fine the first time :/


I agree that he probably shouldnt have done it, but my point is that there is a WARNING right int he description of the thread. If you dont want current and future episodes ruined for you, dont look in a place that says *~*!warning, Episode Spoilers Inside!*~*

This post was edited by Thor123422 on Jul 25 2008 10:20pm
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Jul 25 2008 10:27pm
Quote (Thor123422 @ Fri, Jul 25 2008, 10:16pm)
I agree that he probably shouldnt have done it, but my point is that there is a WARNING right int he description of the thread.  If you dont want current and future episodes ruined for you, dont look in a place that says *~*!warning, Episode Spoilers Inside!*~*


there's a manga thread for discussing manga. he was discussing manga spoilers, not anime spoilers. saying something like that does actually ruin this, since they may actually do that in the future. but who knows, they may change who defeats who in the process of keeping everyone on their toes. honestly though, i don't agree with you. even if there is spoilers inside, i think someone would have common sense to keep the spoilers in the right thread at least...
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Quote (Paintball91 @ Thu, Jul 24 2008, 12:18am)
wow this was pretty far back... anyways ep 181 is out and next ep looks sickkkkkkk. hope the fight isnt going to be gay like that kunoi guy or w/e and ichigo.


-.- figures.. the fights in bleach are becomming more and more predictable.

edit: Dissapointed sad.gif was looking for a gg fight this ep.

This post was edited by Paintball91 on Jul 31 2008 10:05am
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