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Dec 17 2012 11:47pm
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well technically, if aizen wasn't OP at the time him and gin fought, i'm sure Gin woulda won. He had his bankai within aizen already, and technically Gin did kill him, but he just reborn as a butterfly... what is this? pokemon?

As for Hisagi, i guess you guys are correct. He stand on the foothold of captain class along with ikkaku and Renji and other vizards who aren't already captains.

As for Aizen, maybe juhabach was hit with Aizen's shikai when they talked in huenco mundo.
Juhabach clearly states that he had talks with Aizen and that where it could have happened. Another thing, where is Aizen's shikai? i know for a fact its not with him, if hes messing with juhabach's perception simply with the force of a reatsu while he's tied up and in prison... jesus aizen must be strong as a mother fucker.


hrm i dont understand what you mean by technically in this case lol(think about it)

i am fairly certain aizens zanpakto as i mentioned is within him literally. he still has the hogkuyi(lol i hate trying to spell this) since he is immortal and he fused with his zanpakto when he claimed it was the will of the hoguki after witnessing ichigo do it. ofc if you know for a fact that his soul(zanpakto basically) isnt with him please do tell do tell

also i meant if hisagi "hasnt" achieved bankai already. ofc tite has a better imagination than me and its obviously just speculation
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Dec 17 2012 11:50pm
Quote (Charity @ Dec 17 2012 09:47pm)
hrm i dont understand what you mean by technically in this case lol(think about it)

i am fairly certain aizens zanpakto as i mentioned is within him literally. he still has the hogkuyi(lol i hate trying to spell this) since he is immortal and he fused with his zanpakto when he claimed it was the will of the hoguki after witnessing ichigo do it. ofc if you know for a fact that his soul(zanpakto basically) isnt with him please do tell do tell

also i meant if hisagi "hasnt" achieved bankai already. ofc tite has a better imagination than me and its obviously just speculation


It did fuse into his hand when he was in that hollow "immortal bean" state, so I mean that would make sense if it was in him. But don't you think he'd use it on everyone to get out? Unless he knew Juha Bach was coming and is just waiting for the right moment to leave?

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Dec 18 2012 12:02am
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It did fuse into his hand when he became that hollow like thing, so I mean that would make sense if it was in him. But don't you think he'd use it on everyone to get out?  Unless he knew Juha Bach was coming and is just waiting for the right moment to leave?


I am fairly certain there is absolutely no reason for anyone to enter aizen's space lol. I dont believe he needs food air etc if tite uses immortal as exactly what it means which is not subject to death.

Now for arguement sake lets ask why he didnt use it. The seal itself(those black straps along with uraharas), aizen needing time to regain "dominance" over the hogukiy(urahara said the will of the hogkuki rejected aizen or w/e), the central 46 not being subject to his shikai, everyone knows aizen shikai and i assume believe in the seal therefore they would kno if anything funky happened it would just be a trick so no need to attack, i dont think he can force people to move/attack/etc.

finally it can just be a case of aizen using something completely different but i mean we can all agree his shikai seems to be the likely suspect

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Dec 18 2012 12:07am
Quote (Charity @ Dec 17 2012 10:02pm)
I am fairly certain there is absolutely no reason for anyone to enter aizen's space lol. I dont believe he needs food air etc if tite uses immortal as exactly what it means which is not subject to death.

Now for arguement sake lets ask why he didnt use it. The seal itself(those black straps along with uraharas), aizen needing time to regain "dominance" over the hogukiy(urahara said the will of the hogkuki rejected aizen or w/e), the central 46 not being subject to his shikai, everyone knows aizen shikai and i assume believe in the seal therefore they would kno if anything funky happened it would just be a trick so no need to attack, i dont think he can force people to move/attack/etc.

finally it can just be a case of aizen using something completely different but i mean we can all agree his shikai seems to be the likely suspect


You actually make a great point for both the realistc point and the arugement one.

He probably is just waiting it out makie sure he has complete control on it again before he plans to do anything I mean he has what 20,000 years to wait strapped up like that, I bet he's in no rush. :p
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You actually make a great point for both the realistc point and the arugement one.

He probably is just waiting it out makie sure he has complete control on it again before he plans to do anything I mean he has what 20,000 years to wait strapped up like that, I bet he's in no rush. :p


Yeah I mean i would honestly hate for aizen to have a change of heart meaning I would like even after 100,000 years for him to still have his same ideals and goals. become god. Time nor a loser's mentality or someone elses words change him from that goal. Which is why i find it extremely weird they sentenced someone immortal(it possibly just means he lives for a very long time) who killed so many and made an attempt on the soul king was not given life.

side note the hoguki could have also made his shikai not require the release for people to fall under it's effects
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Dec 18 2012 12:28am
Quote (Charity @ Dec 17 2012 10:22pm)
Yeah I mean i would honestly hate for aizen to have a change of heart meaning I would like even after 100,000 years for him to still have his same ideals and goals. become god. Time nor a loser's mentality or someone elses words change him from that goal.  Which is why i find it extremely weird they sentenced someone immortal(it possibly just means he lives for a very long time) who killed so many and made an attempt on the soul king was not given life.

side note the hoguki could have also made his shikai not require the release for people to fall under it's effects


Yea, Aizen is good because he is what I see as the ultimate bad guy in a anime. He's crazy, a mastermind, ruthless, patient, strong, a blood thirsty killer , extermely unpredictable, etc. , etc. , etc.

If that happened that would make him even more of a god and be pretty much impossible to kill. Which would be awesome. :D

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Yea, Aizen is good because he is what I see as the ultimate bad guy in a anime. He's crazy, a mastermind, ruthless, patient, strong, a blood thirsty killer , extermely  unpredictable  etc. , etc.

If that happened that would make him even more of a god and be pretty much impossible to kill. Which would be awesome. :D


Its unfortunate his shikai is so strong, why? well i do believe we will never see a bankai from him.

with this being the last saga i do believe we will see what quincies can amount too, zaraki's potential, finally what the 3 oldest captains can do, ishida not just being a piccolo type character(starts out strong but takes a back seat when shit gets real), hard for me to say but rukia's potential i mean she is basically the main female protagonist(also note she's not byakuyas blood family) hell her and renji are basically lesser zaraki's, maybe chads and orihime's fullbringers shown in full(in chads case he did mention he activates his fullbringer from his pride in his skin, which is basically his WHOLE body), ryuuken and isshin(has a bankai i believe and now that i think about does byakuya's zanpakto have the same abilities as his grandfather/father), i dunno yourichi has a zanpakto too dunno what else we can see maybe the perfect form of that flash cry, urahara lol his limitless intellect along with a bankai, uraharas kido lackey(lol) going nuts, etc etc etc whomever i missed.

On to the zero division, isnt it quite weird of how calm these 5 are? They obviously know of juha bach that puppet lady mentioned the quincy being worst than aizen yet it seems that none of these 5 are worried in the least. I mean yeah they are strengthening ichigo renji byakuya and rukia but i mean the latter 3 are the closest to ichigo shinigami wise (not including his dad) and like someone said they could have them there as hostages or just to please ichigo due to the spirit king's interest in him. but yeah these 5 dont seem worried in the least.

Quincies by how the zero division puppet lady mentioned them it made me believe their final goal may be the same as aizens which is to overthrow the soul king hence why they(zero division) may have even bothered to assist. Maybe ichigo is to replace the soul king HRMMMMMM.
Another thought on the special war potentials i recall when we were listing who it could possibly be none of us mentioned a quincy who is already on juha's side... his "liet" may be such a quincy along with maybe another. We know of zaraki, aizen and ichigo for sure but juha wanted aizen on his side so i definitely believe one of the swp is already on his side and with unohanas revelation maybe she is one too.

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Its unfortunate his shikai is so strong, why? well i do believe we will never see a bankai from him.

with this being the last saga i do believe we will see what quincies can amount too, zaraki's potential, finally what the 3 oldest captains can do, ishida not just being a piccolo type character(starts out strong but takes a back seat when shit gets real), hard for me to say but rukia's potential i mean she is basically the main female protagonist(also note she's not byakuyas blood family) hell her and renji are basically lesser zaraki's, maybe chads and orihime's fullbringers shown in full(in chads case he did mention he activates his fullbringer from his pride in his skin, which is basically his WHOLE body), ryuuken and isshin(has a bankai i believe and now that i think about does  byakuya's zanpakto have the same abilities as his grandfather/father), i dunno yourichi has a zanpakto too dunno what else we can see maybe the perfect form of that flash cry, urahara lol his limitless intellect along with a bankai, uraharas kido lackey(lol) going nuts, etc etc etc whomever i missed.

On to the zero division, isnt it quite weird of how calm these 5 are? They obviously know of juha bach that puppet lady mentioned the quincy being worst than aizen yet it seems that none of these 5 are worried in the least. I mean yeah they are strengthening ichigo renji byakuya and rukia but i mean the latter 3 are the closest to ichigo shinigami wise (not including his dad) and like someone said they could have them there as hostages or just to please ichigo due to the spirit king's interest in him. but yeah these 5 dont seem worried in the least.

Quincies by how the zero division puppet lady mentioned them it made me believe their final goal may be the same as aizens which is to overthrow the soul king hence why they(zero division) may have even bothered to assist. Maybe ichigo is to replace the soul king HRMMMMMM.
Another thought on the special war potentials i recall when we were listing who it could possibly be none of us mentioned a quincy who is already on juha's side... his "liet" may be such a quincy along with maybe another. We know of zaraki, aizen and ichigo for sure but juha wanted aizen on his side so i definitely believe one of the swp is already on his side and with unohanas revelation maybe she is one too.


Well if you think about it Aizen might not even have a bankai his Shikai alone is strong enough to confuse people and he is extermly strong already.

Yourchi was a captain but I don't think it's ever brought that she has a zanpakto. I think she was just giving the command for here flash step ablitiy and because her clan has always held that title in the stealth force. And she took it over after her dad/brother/uncle or whowever it was died. She was also the first female to take the captain seat in that squad.

That was me who brought that up that they might be held as hostages.

Yea they are acting like the qunicies are no threat to them. Maybe there is something more then meets the eye about them?




Also here is a quick peek at chapter 521!!!


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Quote (Austin @ Dec 18 2012 01:59am)
Well if you think about it Aizen might not even have a bankai his Shikai alone is strong enough to confuse people and he is extermly strong already.

Yourchi was a captain but I don't think it's ever brought that she has a zanpakto. I think she was just giving the command for here flash step ablitiy and because her clan has always held that title in the stealth force. And she took it over after her dad/brother/uncle or whowever it was died. She was also the first female to take the captain seat in that squad.

That was me who brought that up that they might be held as hostages.

Yea they are acting like the qunicies are no threat to them. Maybe there is something more then meets the eye about them?




Also here is a quick peek at chapter 521!!!
http://i.imgur.com/KoFtV.jpg


LOL looking crazy!

aizen and yourichi were both captains of normal divisions they have to have bankais. i dont think you can be a shinigami without a zanpakto but then again she does turn into a cat lol chapter 130 page 10 she has a small sword on her waist

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LOL looking crazy!

aizen and yourichi were both captains of normal divisions they have to have bankais. i dont think you can be a shinigami without a zanpakto but then again she does turn into a cat lol


In the turn back volume it says Yourichi was the captain only due to ur family/clan I doubt she even has a zanpakto or it would showed it by now. She is just pure shunpo and then ofc the flash step master. :)


That might not be the chapter some people say it might be fan art, but I seriously doubt that. It looks like tite's work for sure.

Aizen was presumed to have a water/mist type bankai which is why he was a captain since he tricked them all. For all we know he only has his Shikai. :)

This post was edited by Austin on Dec 18 2012 01:17am
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