never heard of purified espadas then looked into it

imo logically no..because hollows such as menos grande are hundreds of souls combined into one

when they turn into adjuches its one of the hollows takes control

vasto lorde is when they consume more adjuches im assuming they become one

so technically when they get slain, because they are hundreds upon hundreds of souls combined into one being they would be seperated i think not 100% sure on this

but i dont see why kubo wouldnt just do it anyways logic does not apply to mangas

I highly doubt he will do anything like that. He even said in before the arc started Q/A the espada are done and won't be brought back into Bleach for besides the few left alive and he won't be bringing any of the others back.

So pretty much we got:
Nel
Grimmjow
Halibel

And no other Espada.

This post was edited by Austin on Dec 17 2012 08:21pm

man, this sucks. at least bring back stark. he was the shit

Stark was amazing but he got cut down and died really awesome.

no he didnt and thats what upsets me

It shows you how strong Shunsui is. Sure it was 3 vs 1 for some time, but Shunsui did the most damage to him and did kill him. ^^

I mean I wish he lived, but his death was actually better then most espada deaths.

This post was edited by Austin on Dec 17 2012 08:42pm

gotta agree with this. Only espada's 4 and 5 were as good as that death.
ulquiorras is OBVIOUSLY the best death, without a doubt he was the strongest espada
nnoitora's fight with zaraki was epic as hell, straight up brawl until the very end, with due respect from each other at the end.

although, i gotta say Gin's death was the one that made me the most mad. Fuckign epic as fuck, outplayed aizen hella hard, to bad hes forever op and got blown to chunks.

hrm definitely didnt outplay aizen

I also disagree with ulq being the strongest and his own statement that his second release was unknown to aizen. Further more he himself doesnt even make that bold statement that his second release made him the strongest.

best death imo its more like bullshit death along with ichigos reasoning at the time that orihime should heal him so they could have a fair fight yet....he just "died" during a fair fight. still puzzled to how death works for vizards and would hope that the other vizards get a free/unlimited life by their hollow coming out.



hrm technically wasnt it aizen who ruined it? another thing that is interesting aizen messed with his senses like his shikai(i do believe he is one with zanpakto still, literally btw) would/could do but for his shikai to work the person has to see the release. I dont think the war was 1000 years ago so how did aizen mess with his(juha bach) perception of time.



Hisagi also killed his mentor who basically taught him his current ethos. Another thing unlike stupid ikkaku and renji its not shown hisagi is as diehard as they are for his captain meaning he would take up the post of captain to protect soul society etc hell even renji who actually "betrayed" his captain to save rukia from being executed may decide to take up the post of captain.

I do believe hisagi only needs to achieve bankai(if he has already i mean come on dude is a genius who was a shinigami longer than renji/maybe ikkaku, having been so afraid of his shikai due to it being a weapon meant to reap life he may be so afraid of his bankai he didnt even bother to master it) to become a captain.

Yea, Aizen most likely knew he would turn on him so he was always ready to kill him when the time was needed.


Well Aizen could of been around as a low level Shingami the whole time during the battle maybe? Or maybe Juha Bach told Aizen some information about the spirit king when he was in hueco mundo and he used it on him then? Both of these I highly doubt is true. So it brings me to this. How the hell did he mess with his perceptions if he was inpersoned? I thought he had to pull out his sword to use it's ablitiy?


I could actually see that happening. Hisagi is probably one of the loyalist shinigami to keep thing safe. I might of spoken to early about him not wanting to go. I Was kinda just comparing him to Renji and Ikkaku about how the respect(ed) there captains to move up. If I remember right (this might of been just in the anime, I didn't go back trough to comfirm) but didn't someone bring up something to Renji about moving up to a captain spot but he said he would never do it?

This post was edited by Austin on Dec 17 2012 11:25pm

well technically, if aizen wasn't OP at the time him and gin fought, i'm sure Gin woulda won. He had his bankai within aizen already, and technically Gin did kill him, but he just reborn as a butterfly... what is this? pokemon?

As for Hisagi, i guess you guys are correct. He stand on the foothold of captain class along with ikkaku and Renji and other vizards who aren't already captains.

As for Aizen, maybe juhabach was hit with Aizen's shikai when they talked in huenco mundo.
Juhabach clearly states that he had talks with Aizen and that where it could have happened. Another thing, where is Aizen's shikai? i know for a fact its not with him, if hes messing with juhabach's perception simply with the force of a reatsu while he's tied up and in prison... jesus aizen must be strong as a mother fucker.