Quote (OsD @ 13 Dec 2012 19:49)

well you have to point out that most liet and captains really just aren't that strong.
If you were to say the strongest of the gotei 13 you would probably get, CC (ofc), unohana, shunsui, ukitake, and zaraki(potentially) then the visored, because obviously they have the mask which make them slightly stronger, and even for them shinji is the strongest and i doubt hes any stronger the ukitake. everyone else is pretty mediocre and really not that strong. Byakuya is played out and HAS to use bankai to stand a chance against anyone, toshiro, soifon, and komamura were mediocre to begin with. Everyone else is fairly strong, but no where near even zaraki (IE. komamura and the blind guy vs zaraki (who even got stronger after that point)).

I also want to think that the 5 zero division captains were part of the original 13 (if there were even 13) of captain commanders squad.
Or at least, they were allies with them. the 5 zero division captains each probably rivaled the strength of captain commander.
I don't think anyone was STRONGER then captain commander, but they were pretty damn close.

of course this is just me speculating, because if they threw all the op commanders into the zero division then the gotei 13 would be shit lol.
Also, whoever brought up the idea the unohana is a cold hearted killer turned good guy, and the reason she wasnt fighting the quincy's was so that she doesn't go back to what she was before... i like the idea. I think her shikai can do more then just heal, or if that is all it does, then her bankai must be nasty. did anyone see the first page of the chapter with the tornado and Unohana on the cover? if its anything like that then im really excited for the next chapter

Quote (OsD @ Dec 13 2012 11:45pm)

Just saying, if your talking about zaraki kenpachi, then he does not have any memories. He doesn't know his shikai and he hasn't been around long enough to be a cold hearted killer. if your talking about unohana then i might just agree with you.

Quote (Austin @ 14 Dec 2012 13:21)

Thats what I said.
He doesn't have any memory of who he was, so i'm guessing unohana will try to fresh his memory or something while she trains him to be a "killer" as they called it.

Quote (Juicy_J @ Dec 14 2012 11:37am)

What's all this "memory" nonsense? When has the story ever stated that Kenpachi had some unknown past where he used his zanpakuto or anything? Wasn't he just a violent man with no name that rose to be a captain?

Quote (Austin @ 14 Dec 2012 15:16)

He said he had doesn't remember what his name is, so called him self Zarakai and named Yachiru after the only person he ever admired. (he doesn't know who she is, just knows the name)

He has a Zanpakutō, but was grown up in Zarakai a place full of only theifs and murders? You can't get a Zanpakutō unless you are a shingami, and it's in Shikai state at all times. So he must of had it for a long time before and forgot some stuff along the way. He has lost all his memory from his early years and has forgoten who Yachiru was, just remembers her name.

There is obviously something missing here. ^^

Quote (shsheik @ 14 Dec 2012 17:37)

please link me to a manga page where it states that zaraki has memory loss.
from what I remember, he just didnt have a name, and took the name of his district.

edit: looks like i'm a little late, just started reading and responded as soon as this came up.
how did this rumor even start?  it clearly says he never had a name and named himself after the district he grew up in.

so many people seem to state shit as fact without having a clue.
if you read a forum post stating something that you dont remember from the manga, how do you not look it up before believing it?

on a side note, i have many horadric hamburgers for sale.
can be used to get infinite brimstones in D3.

idiots

Quote (Austin @ Dec 14 2012 12:16pm)

He said he had doesn't remember what his name is, so called him self Zarakai and named Yachiru after the only person he ever admired. (he doesn't know who she is, just knows the name)

He has a Zanpakutō, but was grown up in Zarakai a place full of only theifs and murders? You can't get a Zanpakutō unless you are a shingami, and it's in Shikai state at all times. So he must of had it for a long time before and forgot some stuff along the way. He has lost all his memory from his early years and has forgoten who Yachiru was, just remembers her name.

There is obviously something missing here. ^^

Quote (mcbatch @ 14 Dec 2012 20:45)

when he was talking to yachiru first time he met her he said he dosent remember his name nor his zanpakuto