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Dec 1 2012 06:43pm
Quote (QQL @ 1 Dec 2012 17:29)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w8LNBdEqIjA

When ichigo first released his shikai, didn't tessai say something like "it can't be, that sword is..." and it cuts off


that id always bug me
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Dec 1 2012 06:46pm
Quote (mcbatch @ Dec 1 2012 07:43pm)
that id always bug me


Hopefully its all thought out by kubo and gets explained on the next chapter
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Dec 1 2012 07:01pm
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Actually Ichi learned the name of his zanpakutou during his training with Urahara, right after he got out of the hole.

To be more specific Yoruichi said that Zaraki is the only captain who doesn't know how to use bankai and doesn't even know the name of his sword, however his sword is in it's released form all the time. :p



NO. Ichigo's sword was simply big because he was unable to control his own reiatsu. Ichigo's father said that if captains would not control their reiatsu they'd be fightning with zanpakutous the size of skyscrapers.
Ichigo achieved shikai after the hole, after learning the name of his zanpakutou.


Thanks for clearing that up, I knew it didn't sound right, but it's been awhile since I've reread that far back. Cuz he already had the shikai when they fought.



Quote (Charity @ Dec 1 2012 04:23pm)
since you offered :P can you please say where it is isshin and urahara mention dislike for the soul king.

I do recall urahara basically calling him the lynch pin but of course that doesnt say he likes him just that he is necessary which can be a necessary evil ofc. the hogkuyi could have been made to create a new lynch pin and urahrara just thought aizen wasnt fit to be it.

hrm i am pretty sure aizen creation of his own hogyuki(terrible spelling lol) was for selfish reasons and what we currently know at this point aizen didnt have ulterior motives outside of wanting to be the one to stand on top.

Why go about it in such a round about way to kill ichigo and why take capable hostages and ones who would most likely sacrifice themselves to not be a burden to ichigo.

The fullbringers and whoever it is in hueco mundo are a given on helping during this war with the quincies. aizen on the other hand i do believe is still looking out for number one(himself)



I am almost certain she has ridiculous reiatsu(may have been the anime adding to make up the length of the episode though), strength(lifts kenpachi after the ichigo fight and jumps really damn high), speed too i think she ran without flash step pretty damn fast quite a distance. I would also assume unlike shunsui's liet who the commander made unable to breathe with the liet being so close to kenpachis ridiculous reiatsu she would have been fine.

kenpachi's sword regarding shikai lol there are topics on some forums just about this. Some go by the databook saying its always in shikai some take the approach that to even get shikai you have to communicate with your sword(which he clearly never does except after the lost). some use the actual manga to refute it further by kenpachi saying that his sword is always "released" or that its his swords "true form". ichigo while training with yourichi to achieve bankai i believe...yourichi says something like "if you havent noticed your sword is always released" and ichigo says "Oh like kenpachi's"  and yourichi doesnt confirm or deny.
Can take it further and say its not even a zanpukto and just a regular sword lol but yeah he doesnt get anything from his shikai and is truly just fighting with a sword and reiatsu.


He says something along the lines "Oh so you've met the spirit king also? Then the next 2 panels is just there faces all angered. It's not said it but if you read the context and look at the pictures it is really obvious all 3 of them hate the spirit king.

Aizen created his after seening the spirit king and finding out Urahara had created one. It might of seemed like for power. But we all know Aizen is a sneaky guy and has many things under his sleeves.

Maybe not kill him, but to stop the trurth about him and his family coming out. Isshin stopped Aizen from doing it once, Urahara also has tried to keep Ichigo away from it. They probably fear that if he finds out the truth he will go and try to kill them or something like that.

I doubt the fullbrings will be helping out (all 3 of them are suppose to be dead, so I wonder how there going to bring them back into the story in the first place) and the one at Hueco Mundo is Grimmmjow, Just looking at the clothing it showed it was his. Also the way he talked.

I don't mean Aizen will be a complete good guy, but he might help aid in the fight against the spirit king if it comes down to that. (Acting on his own, but with a comon goal as everyone else).


Well until he finds out the ablities of his shikai he will just be using it like a normal sword. I just hope that he speaks to his sword. it's been a year since the Aizen fight, for all we know he might of learned it. It skipped over his fights so we couldn't see if he leanred anything new or not.

This post was edited by Austin on Dec 1 2012 07:02pm
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Dec 1 2012 07:07pm
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NO. Ichigo's sword was simply big because he was unable to control his own reiatsu. Ichigo's father said that if captains would not control their reiatsu they'd be fightning with zanpakutous the size of skyscrapers.
Ichigo achieved shikai after the hole, after learning the name of his zanpakutou.


that's right, I stand corrected. I remember that now. Been a long time since I watched the anime/read the manga.


And it's pretty incredible how riled up some people get over this topic, lol. Just shows you really care about this series (much more than I do). more power to you guys
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Dec 1 2012 07:14pm
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that's right, I stand corrected. I remember that now. Been a long time since I watched the anime/read the manga.


And it's pretty incredible how riled up some people get over this topic, lol. Just shows you really care about this series (much more than I do). more power to you guys


It's just something I know and I dislike it when people are spreading wrong information. :p
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Dec 2 2012 01:17am
Quote (Austin @ Dec 1 2012 09:01pm)
Thanks for clearing that up, I knew it didn't sound right, but it's been awhile since I've reread that far back. Cuz he already had the shikai when they fought.





He says something along the lines "Oh so you've met the spirit king also? Then the next 2 panels is just there faces all angered. It's not said it but if you read the context and look at the pictures it is really obvious all 3 of them hate the spirit king.

Aizen created his after seening the spirit king and finding out Urahara had created one. It might of seemed like for power. But we all know Aizen is a sneaky guy and has many things under his sleeves.

Maybe not kill him, but to stop the trurth about him and his family coming out. Isshin stopped Aizen from doing it once, Urahara also has tried to keep Ichigo away from it. They probably fear that if he finds out the truth he will go and try to kill them or something like that.

I doubt the fullbrings will be helping out (all 3 of them are suppose to be dead, so I wonder how there going to bring them back into the story in the first place) and the one at Hueco Mundo is Grimmmjow, Just looking at the clothing it showed it was his. Also the way he talked.

I don't mean Aizen will be a complete good guy, but he might help aid in the fight against the spirit king if it comes down to that. (Acting on his own, but with a comon goal as everyone else).


Well until he finds out the ablities of his shikai he will just be using it like a normal sword. I just hope that he speaks to his sword. it's been a year since the Aizen fight,  for all we know he might of learned it. It skipped over his fights so we couldn't see if he leanred anything new or not.


Hrm i only remember the spirit king being mentioned when aizen is being sealed and isshin nor yourichi are there. hrm do you remember which chapter?

Can you point me in the direction of this too lol i read alot of manga so sometimes fine details are lost.

Hrm isshin knows the truth and prolly urahara why not abduct them? Hell karin prolly knows it lol. we have no idea why isshin hasnt told ichigo the full story yet so its just speculation at this time

lol well hell they are training some place along with ganju who the big sis says will definitely be a part of the fight so why would the 3 who are being trained as well as who were helped when they were wondering the rukongai not help? I thought them wandering the rukongai was the explanation as to how they got to soul society instead of going to hell or heaven they went to soul socieity(i am still unsure when that book of the end guy died but i guess he could have succumbed to his wounds) and i mean technically if ichigo were to die again(he definitely died to 4th espada lol) he could end up in soul society.

No i honestly believe aizen will be the same guy he's always been which seems to be a loner and looking out for number one! Until his back story is revealed we honestly have no idea where he is coming from. Take Gin for example.

LOL i hope he does learn it and its kidou based that would be hilarious he would refuse to use it until absolutely necessary like his kendo
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Dec 5 2012 03:49am


Rukia!
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Dec 5 2012 04:07am
I''ll replay to you when i wake up tomorrow charity, when im on my computer, so I can get the picture for you.

So the spirit king has been shown, he looks some what like Aizen did.
By the way he looks he seems bad, so my theory might be correct in some way.
Awesome way of healing.
I wonder how Aizen would of made a key if there the key

This post was edited by Austin on Dec 5 2012 04:08am
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Dec 5 2012 05:20am
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I''ll replay to you when i wake up tomorrow charity, when im on my computer, so I can get the picture for you.

So the spirit king has been shown, he looks some what like Aizen did.
By the way he looks he seems bad, so my theory might be correct in some way.
Awesome way of healing.
I wonder how Aizen would of made a key if there the key


Well baldie said "Aizen was trying to create us," so he probably could have given someone the power of the key, or even to himself.
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Dec 5 2012 07:34am
im surprised ichigo didnt say anything about rukia being naked lol...
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