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Oct 25 2012 03:58pm
so u guys say he has the hollow because:

1 "his mother was attack by a hollow"
2 "He only become a hollow when he trained with Kisuke "
3 "Because he died once and turned into a hollow while trying to get back his shinigami powers"

1-> yes, being attacked by a hollow = auto hollow, yes..
2-> everyone who was trained by him = hollow, yes..
3-> nonsense, the hollow protected him. he didnt die
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Oct 25 2012 04:06pm
Quote (Charity @ Oct 25 2012 03:20pm)
nor did they ever say ichigo's mom was a quincy. it also does not make sense why it would be a secret seeing as she is "DEAD". juha bach himself called ichigo a human and himself a quincy she he differs between the 2. therefore ichigo's mom should be 100% human so just because he used a quincy tech its still speculation until tite explains it.




Hrm i dont recall him becoming a shinigami more than once. i thought he got his hollow when he used kisuke machine to learn his bankai.


he lost his shinigami power before, you newb
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Quote (undead_lord @ Oct 25 2012 04:58pm)
so u guys say he has the hollow because:

1 "his mother was attack by a hollow"
2 "He only become a hollow when he trained with Kisuke "
3 "Because he died once and turned into a hollow while trying to get back his shinigami powers"

1-> yes, being attacked by a hollow = auto hollow, yes..
2-> everyone who was trained by him = hollow, yes..
3-> nonsense, the hollow protected him. he didnt die


sense

this makes a lot of
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Oct 25 2012 05:09pm
Quote (undead_lord @ 25 Oct 2012 17:58)
so u guys say he has the hollow because:

1 "his mother was attack by a hollow"
2 "He only become a hollow when he trained with Kisuke "
3 "Because he died once and turned into a hollow while trying to get back his shinigami powers"

1-> yes, being attacked by a hollow = auto hollow, yes..
2-> everyone who was trained by him = hollow, yes..
3-> nonsense, the hollow protected him. he didnt die


Disregard every single thing said in the quoted post.
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Oct 25 2012 05:55pm
How do you people not remember this?

Ichigo's soul chain got cut by Byakuya while he was in Shinigami form; Kiskue saved him, and put him in a giant hole and told him if he could escape, his powers would come back.

When Ichigo escapes the pit is the first time we see his hollow form/mask, it's never explained HOW it happens, but this is when he aquires his hollow.

This is what he looked like when he came out of the hole:






Quote (Charity @ Oct 25 2012 12:20pm)
nor did they ever say ichigo's mom was a quincy. it also does not make sense why it would be a secret seeing as she is "DEAD". juha bach himself called ichigo a human and himself a quincy she he differs between the 2. therefore ichigo's mom should be 100% human so just because he used a quincy tech its still speculation until tite explains it.




Hrm i dont recall him becoming a shinigami more than once. i thought he got his hollow when he used kisuke machine to learn his bankai.



Ichigo's mom being Quincy is purely speculation at this point, no one is claiming it's fact - but it does make sense.

Ichigo has lost/gained his powers a stupid amount of times too:

He becomes a soul reaper when he stabs himself with Rukia's Zanptaktou
He comes a Visard (soul reaper/hollow) after getting his soul chain cut and escaping Kiskue's pit (This is before he learns bankai)
He gains Fullbring powers after losing his abilities
He gains Shinigami powers again from the Captains after the Final Getsuga Tenshou.

This post was edited by Nitrix on Oct 25 2012 06:03pm
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Oct 25 2012 06:34pm
Quote (Nitrix @ Oct 25 2012 07:55pm)
How do you people not remember this?

Ichigo's soul chain got cut by Byakuya while he was in Shinigami form; Kiskue saved him, and put him in a giant hole and told him if he could escape, his powers would come back.

When Ichigo escapes the pit is the first time we see his hollow form/mask, it's never explained HOW it happens, but this is when he aquires his hollow.

This is what he looked like when he came out of the hole:

http://images2.fanpop.com/images/photos/6700000/ichigo-hollow-hollow-ichigo-6793345-700-552.jpg







Ichigo's mom being Quincy is purely speculation at this point, no one is claiming it's fact - but it does make sense.

Ichigo has lost/gained his powers a stupid amount of times too:

He becomes a soul reaper when he stabs himself with Rukia's Zanptaktou
He comes a Visard (soul reaper/hollow) after getting his soul chain cut and escaping Kiskue's pit (This is before he learns bankai)
He gains Fullbring powers after losing his abilities
He gains Shinigami powers again from the Captains after the Final Getsuga Tenshou.


Yeah my memory was quite hazy on his hollow powers i just remembered it had something to do with kisuke. also i didnt count when he actually gained his shinigami powers for the first time as regaining anything but if he did gain his hollow as well as his shinigami powers from the pit then yeah i guess it has been 2 times and not one time when kisuke and his dad stabbed him.

i am still very iffy about his mom being a quincy because juha bach seems to know everything and he calls him a human. then again he is a quincy who has lived for over 1000 years so he may be a pure blood and consider lesser quincies those who maybe bred with humans and became a lesser being humans even if they have quincy blood and powers.

still juha bach was generally surprised about ichigos quincy attack or w/e. either way why they would keep his mom a secret doesnt add up as of now but going by how aizen was about to announce it and was held off its ofc possible.

hrm i think with this little fight and aside from main character powers its clear that the commander is above ichigo in terms of powers. ichigo was beaten with his bankai whereas the commander had his taken away and only 1 arm :P

This post was edited by Charity on Oct 25 2012 06:36pm
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Oct 25 2012 07:19pm
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Yeah my memory was quite hazy on his hollow powers i just remembered it had something to do with kisuke. also i didnt count when he actually gained his shinigami powers for the first time as regaining anything but if he did gain his hollow as well as his shinigami powers from the pit then yeah i guess it has been 2 times and not one time when kisuke and his dad stabbed him.

i am still very iffy about his mom being a quincy because juha bach seems to know everything and he calls him a human. then again he is a quincy who has lived for over 1000 years so he may be a pure blood and consider lesser quincies those who maybe bred with humans and became a lesser being humans even if they have quincy blood and powers.

still juha bach was generally surprised about ichigos quincy attack or w/e. either way why they would keep his mom a secret doesnt add up as of now but going by how aizen was about to announce it and was held off its ofc possible.

hrm i think with this little fight and aside from main character powers its clear that the commander is above ichigo in terms of powers. ichigo was beaten with his bankai whereas the commander had his taken away and only 1 arm :P


Eh, it's arguable that Yamamoto was stronger than Ichigo - there is no one else out there quite like Ichigo, Kubo gives him hacks.


This is the picture I posted above, link broke:



This post was edited by Nitrix on Oct 25 2012 07:20pm
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Oct 25 2012 10:27pm
well that a unexpected but expected twist, if that makes sense.
i wonder how he got those quincy powers.

I like the speculation that his mom was part quincy and thats why his dad ran away from soul society

it would fit the puzzle nicely, also did anyone else notice how Juha Bach isn't the final quincy boss, he says hes the boss but he's not.
there is only one more person i can think of that can cover that role.

uryu's dad. Of course uryu joins up with ichigo but thats just speculation from me

Ichigo isnt even close to captain yamamoto status, yamamoto was a god, and if he wasnt so prideful he coulda ripped juha bach apart i think.
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Oct 25 2012 10:30pm
Quote (Charity @ Oct 25 2012 01:20pm)
nor did they ever say ichigo's mom was a quincy. it also does not make sense why it would be a secret seeing as she is "DEAD". juha bach himself called ichigo a human and himself a quincy she he differs between the 2. therefore ichigo's mom should be 100% human so just because he used a quincy tech its still speculation until tite explains it.




Hrm i dont recall him becoming a shinigami more than once. i thought he got his hollow when he used kisuke machine to learn his bankai.


Rukia made him one
Byakuya broke his chain, and he lost his shinigami powers, thus he was able to become a hollow
Lost it using final getsuga tenshou
Ginjo made him a fullbringer and helped him gain some of his shinigami powers again
Ginjo stole fullbringer/whatever shinigami powers he gained
Rukia made him one again

Quote (undead_lord @ Oct 25 2012 02:58pm)
so u guys say he has the hollow because:

1 "his mother was attack by a hollow"
2 "He only become a hollow when he trained with Kisuke "
3 "Because he died once and turned into a hollow while trying to get back his shinigami powers"

1-> yes, being attacked by a hollow = auto hollow, yes..
2-> everyone who was trained by him = hollow, yes..
3-> nonsense, the hollow protected him. he didnt die


Thats not true. ^_^

This post was edited by Austin on Oct 25 2012 10:33pm
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Oct 26 2012 03:15am
if you look carefully, those were quotations from posts earlier ...

This post was edited by undead_lord on Oct 26 2012 03:15am
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