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Oct 2 2012 04:53pm
Quote (Charity @ Oct 2 2012 03:16pm)
Hrm i dont think all quincies are that old but just juha bach. im sure quincies are just generations aside from juha bach(ofc their can be others just as old)

did it actually show a panel of the 3rd seat dying?

this whole bankai stealing thing is a bit wierd even though they've shown that a bankai is different from a shikai but i thought it was just a part of the shinigamis soul. not something physical say like starks arrancar split.

why do you suggest their being a traitor among the shinigami? due to how juha bach those infiltrated soul society and how juha knew exactly where aizen was being held? with aizen gin(double if not triple since he didnt want ot kill aizen for soul society but himself and matsumoto) kanami being traitors or betrayers i think we've had enough of that.

i think the quincy war was like 200 years ago where as juha bach is 1000+ years old so it seems soul society may have been made up of both quincy and soul reaper but then a difference in how to deal with hollows may have caused juha back being exiled or w/e

the quincy in the war could have been watered downed due to genetics or w/e and ishida those happen to be "pure blood" or osmething silly.

either way i hope tite writes a compelling story


I think he's either dead because he was told to stay there and defend the barracks although I don't think thats true it's a 3rd seat he would of fought Juha Bach and Yamamoto would of noticed someone fighting over there. Since they read spiritual power.

Also a different possibility, I think he's (Okikiba) the tratior showing Juha Bach where Aizen is (How else would he know where Aizen is?), to get information out of him about the Royal Key and how to open it. Also to just see if he would join them fight the shinigami again.




Also did anyone know the person who was attacking the research and devolpment build had a curved foot? There has only been 1 person with a curved boot so far and that was Nnoitora. Also where is the Arrancar Vanguard they were talking about, if so Nnoitra would be leading them probably? Since he never died.


This Chapter was called: The Extinction

So the soul society is going to be destroyed or fucked up big time. Forcing them to Karakura town, this why it showed Hiyori and the vaizards? Or back to Hueco Mundo? To save Ichigo, and the rest? Also maybe Halibel? Since she is captured. And maybe that sword in Urahara's face is from Grimmjow? Since Nnoitra did try to kill him, maybe he wants to help Ichigo so they can fight again? or just so he can help out in the fight. Also who else could it be? Or maybe he's going to use the royal key in the soul society? Like Aizen was to try and kill or bring out the spirit king?

Also why did no one but Urahara, Yoruichi, and Ryuken only know about Isshin?

Isshin wears a tattered captain Cloak on his shoulder. If he was a captain why do only those 3 know about him? If he was a captain they would of know him and Ichigo from the VERY begining. Maybe he killed a captain during the quincy war? And maybe his wife was a quincy? If his wife was a quincy it would make sense that he would join the quincies and be able to kill a captain, and maybe Ryuken was her brother or close friend thus how they know each other and are close. Also why the Hollow Aizen created went after her and killed her?

Was the captain cloak he wears a close friend he had to kill due to the war? Or someone he honors by wearing it? Whats with it?

Ishida was also the first "bad guy" and was able to relate with Ichigo quick after there battle so they already had a close bond like there parents.

This post was edited by Austin on Oct 2 2012 05:06pm
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Oct 2 2012 05:31pm
i wonder what is going on with the hogyouko atm
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Oct 2 2012 05:37pm
aizen knew about isshin so i am sure the commander and probably the older captains do as well.

I am not sure grand fisher went after her specifically but just coincidental. he posed as a girl on the river bank and ichigo walking with his mom went to "save" the girl from jumping and grand fisher revealed himself and killed his mom who was trying to stop ichigo.

hrm ichigos mom i think aizen was cut short before saying what she was and by all means she can be a quincy but it would seem if she does have some sort of special powers they seem to be weak seeing as how grand fisher was a normal hollow when he killed her.

i am also fairly certain that the 5th espada died to kenpachi's kendo slice as his fraccion cried as well as state how the 5th wanted to die and i believe thanks kenpachi for being able to kill him in such a way.

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Oct 2 2012 07:16pm
Quote (Charity @ Oct 2 2012 04:37pm)
aizen knew about isshin so i am sure the commander and probably the older captains do as well.

I am not sure grand fisher went after her specifically but just coincidental. he posed as a girl on the river bank and ichigo walking with his mom went to "save" the girl from jumping and grand fisher revealed himself and killed his mom who was trying to stop ichigo.

hrm ichigos mom i think aizen was cut short before saying what she was and by all means she can be a quincy but it would seem if she does have some sort of special powers they seem to be weak seeing as how grand fisher was a normal hollow when he killed her.

i am also fairly certain that the 5th espada died to kenpachi's kendo slice as his fraccion cried as well as state how the 5th wanted to die and i believe thanks kenpachi for being able to kill him in such a way.


True, But the other captains don't/didn't know about him, and never brought up anything about him not even commander. So maybe he was apart of O devision (Royal gaurd) but if he was in that then Commander or some of the others would of know about him. Thus why I think he was just come random shinigami who joined the quincies durning the war because of the mother. Aizen says he's part Shinigami and part..... and it has to quincy? That would make a lot of sense about some of the things.

Aizen was about to say what was going on but then Isshin stops him before he can say it.



Or maybe he is apart of the royal family? Why else could he have learned and got so powerful so fast? All of the shingami were confused about this and still are.

Also what does the final gestuga tensho remind u of?

Go back to the soul society arc, Ishida, realease the "seal" and get power beond belief then lose it all. Same thing happened to Ichigo he released his seal or took in Zangestu and got that power. His Dad knew about the power so his dad must of did the same thing and lost his powers and he regained him somehow also?

Both were able to get there powers back also. They said a Shinigami would never be able to get his powers back. He did.

Maybe Aizen was realeased? And is in Hueco Mundo and that sword facing Urahara is his? What why he's like oh shit?


Or maybe that explosion was Aizen? Not Juha bach since he was behind head captain 1 scene after that. Maybe he released him?

Aizen was to cocky last time but he has had time to think and with the quincies waging war he can think of something or try and do his plans even without the hogyoku? Aizen clearly will be coming back in this arc he was up to something more then when they fought him the first time. I hope it explains what. I mean he wasn't even upset about losing or being sealed away. Maybe meaning he knew Juha Bach would attack soon and was not worried about being sealed away.


As for Nnoitra he was shown dead he just fell down and looked at Nel, just as Grimmjow did with Ichigo

http://t1.goodmanga.net/images/manga/bleach/287/5.jpg
http://t1.goodmanga.net/images/manga/bleach/313/9.jpg


Sorry if I had some typo's I typed this up fast :p
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Oct 2 2012 10:37pm
Quote (Austin @ Oct 2 2012 08:16pm)
True, But the other captains don't/didn't know about him, and never brought up anything about him not even commander. So maybe he was apart of O devision (Royal gaurd) but if he was in that then Commander or some of the others would of know about him. Thus why I think he was just come random shinigami who joined the quincies durning the war because of the mother.  Aizen says he's part Shinigami and part..... and it has to quincy? That would make a lot of sense about some of the things.

Aizen was about to say what was going on but then Isshin stops him before he can say it.
http://t1.goodmanga.net/images/manga/bleach/397/17.jpg
http://t1.goodmanga.net/images/manga/bleach/397/18.jpg

Or maybe he is apart of the royal family? Why else could he have learned and got so powerful so fast? All of the shingami were confused about this and still are.

Also what does the final gestuga tensho remind u of?

Go back to the soul society arc, Ishida, realease the "seal" and get power beond belief then lose it all. Same thing happened to Ichigo he released his seal or took in Zangestu and got that power. His Dad knew about the power so his dad must of did the same thing and lost his powers and he regained him somehow also?

Both were able to get there powers back also. They said a Shinigami would never be able to get his powers back. He did.

Maybe Aizen was realeased? And is in Hueco Mundo and that sword facing Urahara is his? What why he's like oh shit?
http://t1.goodmanga.net/images/manga/bleach/500/22.jpg

Or maybe that explosion was Aizen? Not Juha bach since he was behind head captain 1 scene after that. Maybe he released him?

Aizen was to cocky last time but he has had time to think and with the quincies waging war he can think of something or try and do his plans even without the hogyoku? Aizen clearly will be coming back in this arc he was up to something more then when they fought him the first time. I hope it explains what. I mean he wasn't even upset about losing or being sealed away. Maybe meaning he knew Juha Bach would attack soon and was not worried about being sealed away.


As for Nnoitra he was shown dead he just fell down and looked at Nel, just as Grimmjow did with Ichigo

http://t1.goodmanga.net/images/manga/bleach/287/5.jpg
http://t1.goodmanga.net/images/manga/bleach/313/9.jpg


Sorry if I had some typo's I typed this up fast :p


that's a lot of thought, even for Bleach. i agree with on the most part
i also think ichigo may be the offspring of a shinigami and quincy.
that's why he's able to get so strong within 1-2years + 2year speed training vs shinigamis that have been training for hundreds of years.
his "quincy" abilities is like a passive skill that has always been active. by quincy skills i mean (if i recall correctly)
one of the quincy's ability is to absorb energy or w/e that's called
and utilize it. a good example is ishida's quincy sword err arrow w/e you wanna call it.
maybe ichigo has been absorb shit from the beginning?
or maybe it's just awesome genetics.

also, doesn't zangetsu kinda look like juha bach?

but in all honesty, this is bleach. and anything can happen so i retract everything i just typed, also..
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Oct 4 2012 02:22pm
Quote (Austin @ Oct 2 2012 09:16pm)
True, But the other captains don't/didn't know about him, and never brought up anything about him not even commander. So maybe he was apart of O devision (Royal gaurd) but if he was in that then Commander or some of the others would of know about him. Thus why I think he was just come random shinigami who joined the quincies durning the war because of the mother.  Aizen says he's part Shinigami and part..... and it has to quincy? That would make a lot of sense about some of the things.

Aizen was about to say what was going on but then Isshin stops him before he can say it.
http://t1.goodmanga.net/images/manga/bleach/397/17.jpg
http://t1.goodmanga.net/images/manga/bleach/397/18.jpg

Or maybe he is apart of the royal family? Why else could he have learned and got so powerful so fast? All of the shingami were confused about this and still are.

Also what does the final gestuga tensho remind u of?

Go back to the soul society arc, Ishida, realease the "seal" and get power beond belief then lose it all. Same thing happened to Ichigo he released his seal or took in Zangestu and got that power. His Dad knew about the power so his dad must of did the same thing and lost his powers and he regained him somehow also?

Both were able to get there powers back also. They said a Shinigami would never be able to get his powers back. He did.

Maybe Aizen was realeased? And is in Hueco Mundo and that sword facing Urahara is his? What why he's like oh shit?
http://t1.goodmanga.net/images/manga/bleach/500/22.jpg

Or maybe that explosion was Aizen? Not Juha bach since he was behind head captain 1 scene after that. Maybe he released him?

Aizen was to cocky last time but he has had time to think and with the quincies waging war he can think of something or try and do his plans even without the hogyoku? Aizen clearly will be coming back in this arc he was up to something more then when they fought him the first time. I hope it explains what. I mean he wasn't even upset about losing or being sealed away. Maybe meaning he knew Juha Bach would attack soon and was not worried about being sealed away.


As for Nnoitra he was shown dead he just fell down and looked at Nel, just as Grimmjow did with Ichigo

http://t1.goodmanga.net/images/manga/bleach/287/5.jpg
http://t1.goodmanga.net/images/manga/bleach/313/9.jpg


Sorry if I had some typo's I typed this up fast :p


Hrm are you basing the other captains not knowing who isshin is due to them not putting 2 and 2 together to say ichigo is isshins son? he may have changed his name when he began living in the human world. i also dont recall any of the other captains seeing isshin to be like hey "old friend" but yeah who knows.

nnoitra i am still fairly certain that dude is dead unlike with grimmjow where nnoitra was about to deliver the final blow but was halted by ichigo nnoitra just died with his one eye open due to such a quick death. his fraccion or nnoitra himself said he wanted to draw his last breath(die) before hitting the ground so his eye being open doesnt necessarily indicate he's alive and staring at something.

i already said aizen was cut short of telling us what the mom was so rly no clue until its revealed however upon it being revealed i do hope they dont pull some bullshit about only the first born inheriting the powers and both the 2 daughters are just as strong if not stronger than ichigo to be fair ;P. but ofc one of them maybe a dominant quincy.

i dont think powers can be compared cause isshin would have to be part quincy as well if that were the case. also dont the quincy have an upgraded form of what ishida where you dont lose your powers, i think the jailer is using it atm.

Hrm i am pretty sure while the 1st was fighting was when juha was having his talk with aizen so i highly doubt aizen was released then or at all seeing as how he didnt agree to help juha. either way kisuke was "saved" earlier than that so lets hope its an espada maybe yammy who isnt dead or grimjow.

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Oct 5 2012 11:26am
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Hrm are you basing the other captains not knowing who isshin is due to them not putting 2 and 2 together to say ichigo is isshins son? he may have changed his name when he began living in the human world. i also dont recall any of the other captains seeing isshin to be like hey "old friend" but yeah who knows.

nnoitra i am still fairly certain that dude is dead unlike with grimmjow where nnoitra was about to deliver the final blow but was halted by ichigo nnoitra just died with his one eye open due to such a quick death. his fraccion or nnoitra himself said he wanted to draw his last breath(die) before hitting the ground so his eye being open doesnt necessarily indicate he's alive and staring at something.

i already said aizen was cut short of telling us what the mom was so rly no clue until its revealed however upon it being revealed i do hope they dont pull some bullshit about only the first born inheriting the powers and both the 2 daughters are just as strong if not stronger than ichigo to be fair ;P. but ofc one of them maybe a dominant quincy.

i dont think powers can be compared cause isshin would have to be part quincy as well if that were the case. also dont the quincy have an upgraded form of what ishida where you dont lose your powers, i think the jailer is using it atm.

Hrm i am pretty sure while the 1st was fighting was when juha was having his talk with aizen so i highly doubt aizen was released then or at all seeing as how he didnt agree to help juha. either way kisuke was "saved" earlier than that so lets hope its an espada maybe yammy who isnt dead or grimjow.


Well not really basing it on that really. It has just not been brought up that they know about his father. Otherwise they would of known about Ichigo from the start. Aizen knew but he must of had to do some research to find out about it or something. Since it's kinda clear only 3 people besides Ichigo and his sisters know about him when they fought Aizen (people may know about him now obviously since he fought).

You might be right, but I also think that would be really cool if he comes back since they have a Arrancar Vanguard, and they will need someone strong to lead them.

Yea if that is the case about what happend I hope they don't ruin it. But then again Ichigo didn't get his powers to strongly come in until he was 15(when the anime first started) and he met Rukia and got the soul reaper powers. He might of had part soul reaper and maybe quincy. Which again i'm bring up why he was able to master his abilities so easy. But If that is true then his mother must of been like the bottom of barrow. She died to grand fisher, but was also tricked so caught off guard as the story shows. That might be a reason why no one was able to ever find them. Also isshin' had to of gave in to his Engetsu letting him get the final Getsuga Tenshou. losing his powers and being able to hide from the soul reapers and hollows that came. Until Ichigo's power start getting stronger and his monther got caught and killed. I think after that happened Isshin started to train and try to get his powers back thanks to Urahara and his training grounds. He's smart and could of probably figured out a way to help him get his powers back. Urahara also knew about Ichigo from the begining so. :)

The Jailers are using there own final realease but with a twist to it making them able to come back (So they have said) It only showed one realease so far and that guy got cut down the middle. So it's unclear as of right now.

True, just trying to throw out a theory that might make sense. :p
What do you mean he was saved? It's not clear if it was someone with that guy just killing him off like Juha bach did to his subordinates that failed to do there job. Hopefully though it's an Espada.
As for who, Yammy was killed so it can't be him. The highest ranked one was Halibel so she took over after Aizen as refered to in the pages. Also I doubt 2 captains would leave someone like that alive. He looks at the dog then his eyes went white (clearly showing he died)
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Oct 5 2012 02:30pm
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Well not really basing it on that really. It has just not been brought up that they know about his father. Otherwise they would of known about Ichigo from the start. Aizen knew but he must of had to do some research to find out about it or something. Since it's kinda clear only 3 people besides Ichigo and his sisters know about him when they fought Aizen (people may know about him now obviously since he fought).

You might be right, but I also think that would be really cool if he comes back since they have a Arrancar Vanguard, and they will need someone strong to lead them.

Yea if that is the case about what happend I hope they don't ruin it. But then again Ichigo didn't get his powers to strongly come in until he was 15(when the anime first started) and he met Rukia and got the soul reaper powers. He might of had part soul reaper and maybe quincy. Which again i'm bring up why he was able to master his abilities so easy. But If that is true then his mother must of been like the bottom of barrow. She died to grand fisher, but was also tricked so caught off guard as the story shows. That might be a reason why no one was able to ever find them. Also isshin' had to of gave in to his Engetsu letting him get the final Getsuga Tenshou. losing his powers and being able to hide from the soul reapers and hollows that came. Until Ichigo's power start getting stronger and his monther got caught and killed. I think after that happened Isshin started to train and try to get his powers back thanks to Urahara and his training grounds. He's smart and could of probably figured out a way to help him get his powers back. Urahara also knew about Ichigo from the begining so. :)

The Jailers are using there own final realease but with a twist to it making them able to come back (So they have said) It only showed one realease so far and that guy got cut down the middle. So it's unclear as of right now.

True, just trying to throw out a theory that might make sense. :p
What do you mean he was saved? It's not clear if it was someone with that guy just killing him off like Juha bach did to his subordinates that failed to do there job. Hopefully though it's an Espada.
As for who, Yammy was killed so it can't be him. The highest ranked one was Halibel so she took over after Aizen as refered to in the pages. Also I doubt 2 captains would leave someone like that alive. He looks at the dog then his eyes went white (clearly showing he died)


firstly with yammy hrm i guess it can be seen as succumbing to his injuries after a "touching" moment with his pet but i think he only closed his eyes. plus him and urahara have a history. furthermore i rly hate how they made the espada to be so strong the 10th speculated only a few could take down all of soul society but they 1 v 1 most of them and the strongest was taken down by just 2.

secondly i was being facetious hence i used the quotes to say urahara was "saved" from J had the mysterious person with a sword not shown up.

The Jailer was cut down the middle only after being surprised attacked by urahara and when being boastful of having thought he succeeded in preventing ichigo from making it to soul society. let his guard down at a critical moment in short

I am pretty sure aizen said he planned the rukia thing and i guess ichigo could have been fathered when isshin had his powers whereas the other 2 only when they mother had powers(if that is the case).

like i said it could be as simple as isshin changing his name or being someone of no importance for the other captains to remember him to the point of mentioning his name. again i am not 100% sure but i dont believe any of the other captains such as unohana 8th or 13th have seen isshin but yeah who knows
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Oct 10 2012 12:07am


Oh shit... :o


That was by far one of the best chapters to come out this arc.

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Oct 10 2012 12:12am
woah.

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