he didnt fail to make the shape, he didnt proportion the ""white and black" chakra properly

what he created wasnt a rasengan. he created the beast bomb which is created using the same technique as the rasengan

well said.. very well said.
Okay about the itachi > jiraiya blah blah conversation.

for fairness.. I will say itachi = jiraiya.
But i will also say this. Why not have fought jiraiya before? i mean what did he have to lose? he'd get the nine tails, and what? a few injuries? worse eyes? So what,
he can stop Madara's plan RIGHT THERE. if he had the 9 tails
my personal belief is that jiraiya>itachi , But itachi is one strong as fuck ninja also.
sussano + amaterasu vs sage mode + elder toads?
i would consider that pretty damn even lol. and i actually lean more towards jiraiya, just for the fact he has 2 toads and he can sage mode FOREVER with those 2 toads. On the other hand..
Itachi goes blind. So.. you choose whos better? my belief is that it is jiraiya.

i bet naruto is going to make a

wind rasengen beast bomb!

huge ass explosion with nano cutting slices from the wind


that shit will fuck some one up

He can sage mod forever but he can't produce th rasengan suriken , rasengan suriken made
Sage mod look even more gg , btw sage mod takes time and Itachi will finish off jiraya
Before hand , you think jiraya can escape Itachi during tht much time .

If jiraya is alrdy in sage mod then it would be a competition but susano > sage mod and toads > genjutsu .

Btw one think I hate about Naruto author is that he make the best character fight while they are weak

To start 3rd hokage old as fuck
Itachi ill as fuck
Jiraya. Don't know what shit is going on and then us pwnt
Ocharimaru ill as fuck so he's raped to
I think tusnade will die too since she's still hasn't recovered , ofc Naruto will be hokage after the battle is over.

Think is just sickkkkk well also if u c Naruto mom attacked while she's helpless
Pregnant , minato too could not do anything but use tht ultimate jutsu .

4th hokage uses all the daggers in the ground?

you talking about sasori who got beat up by a girl with pink hair, deidara who killed himself because he couldn't beat a teenage emo lunatic, hidan who got raped by shikamaru, orochimaru who also got killed by the emo lunatic, or pain who lost to naruto?

yea he has seals placed onto the daggers and the daggers are chakara recievers like Asuma's knifes thats how he moves so fast he teleports between the daggers and the daggers only he isnt fast cause strong legs or what ever he uses seals taught to him by Naruto's mom

its still bad ass thought

he also used to give out a dagger or two to special people or some members in his squad so he could just pop up and save them if needed

but dont get me wrong he is still a bad ass with his jutsu out side of the teleporting

the power difference between madara and everyone else now is ridiculous. it's madara >> naruto & sasuke & (maybe) killer bee > kages > jounin

kabuto with all of his clones is definitely somewhere up there. if you consider kabuto = him AND his clones, he's probably roughly the same level as madara or naruto / others.