Quote (daikafoe @ 30 Nov 2010 00:48)

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jiraiya is awsome

Quote (mcbatch @ Nov 30 2010 05:52pm)

i agree!

Quote (daikafoe @ Nov 30 2010 01:28pm)

last i checked
kakashi was raped by pain

Quote (ridman2000 @ Nov 30 2010 09:37pm)

but in the process of getting beaten he accomplished his goal of  saving choji and getting valuable intel to the village.

Quote (undead_lord @ Nov 30 2010 02:10am)

Itachi raped Ochi? Yes, but even in akatsuki, there are some stronger than the others. And talking about ochi as sannin .. he WAS. Its like saying Itachi could pwn naruto when he naruto WAS genin...

if jiraya know this, if jiraya know that ... we dont know for sure. If pain could do this, if pain could do that ... Even if they know about him, im sure nagato would still be powerful enough to face anyone except madara. We dont know what he can do except for his puppets yet

and no, kakashi didnt rape every akatsuki he fought.

Quote (MonK-Gabe @ Nov 30 2010 08:48pm)

He still is isn't he? I don't remember him ever going past genin rank(obviously he is more than worthy of a higher rank).

Quote (daikafoe @ Nov 30 2010 06:55pm)

yes but according to you he RAPED every akatsuki he faced
i dont think dying for your friends or students is considered raping an akatsuki

Quote (OsD @ Dec 1 2010 12:24am)

wow lol. that is one very nice point



basically he is in the same class as jiraiya.
And its because of that information lead to the raping of said akatsuki "nagato"

Quote (daikafoe @ Nov 30 2010 10:16pm)

jiraiya is not in the same class as kakashi
i dunno if you remember but kakashi had some help from choji and his dad
although it was all futile in the end he wouldnt have gotten that far without back up

Quote (OsD @ Dec 1 2010 01:24am)

i mean basically they did the same thing.
they both died for information, that in turn helped in the defeat of nagato.
My bad if anyone misunderstood

Quote (MonK-Gabe @ Nov 30 2010 11:48pm)

He still is isn't he? I don't remember him ever going past genin rank(obviously he is more than worthy of a higher rank).