Keep in mind, there are four facets to a shinigami's power.

Sword strength is one of four.

I think his ultra powerful spirit energy makes up for the others


honestly, i want him to know kido and stuff. If the other captains can do that, i wanna see what no eyepatch zaraki would do to normal attacks

This post was edited by Thor123422 on Nov 2 2008 01:34pm

This will be my final argument as to why Zaraki Kenpachi would not stand a chance against Yamamoto Genryuusai

Zaraki Kenpachi:

Extremely strong, and versed in the art of the Sword (Zanjutsu)
This is ALL he is good at. He is extremely dumb. He cannot use Shunpo.
He cannot use Kido. He cannot use Hakudo.

Yamamoto Genryuusai:

We can only assume he is versed in all FOUR of the shinigami fighting styles - Zanjutsu, Shunpo, Kido, Hakudo
He is extremely intelligent, and wise due to age.

He caught two captains as they were fleeing from him (Shunpo)
He taught Kenpachi his Kendo Style (Zanjutsu)
We can assume with a high percent of accuracy he is highly versed in hakudo (hand to hand) and Kido (Demon Arts)

His Reiatsu is equal to Kenpachi in his Shikai State (from the Looks of it), and we don't even know what his Bankai is.
There is too much mystery about him to identify a firm answer for the magnitude of his strength, but seeing that he
taught Kenpachi Kendo, and leads the captains, we can only assume he is vastly stronger than Kenpachi.
Additionally, the fact that he is able to communicate with the strongest of the flame type swords, Ryu Jin Jaka, signifies
an even greater strength. Kenpachi does not even possess the ability to speak with his sword.

I know you're in love with Kenpachi Thor, but let's look at the facts here.
Kenpachi is nothing compared to Yamamoto...

Age, Wisdom, Versatility, Strength, and Leadership Trump Ignorance and Pure Strength any day of the week.

This post was edited by Epion on Nov 2 2008 01:52pm

Accident Sorry

This post was edited by Epion on Nov 2 2008 01:48pm

a few things you overlooked.

he didn't catch 2 captains that were running from him, they were leading him to a safer area to fight.

Just because he tought zaraki kendo doesn't mean hes stronger. All it means is that he watned zaraki to know it.

you can't judge his spirit pressure by using shikai state as an example because we barely got to see it, and we didn't see him fight with it at all. I didn't see a mushroom cloud from a swing of the sword when he awakened his shikai. Zaraki's energy looked way stronger than his.

he only leads the captanis because he has been captain the longest and pretty much established soul society

Kenpachi doesn't have the ability to speak w/ his sword and yet he is still so strong. That says somethin dude can you imagine power if he ever did learn his zanpakuto's name

and honestly, i dont think we have seen zaraki at 100% yet. Or atleast seen him fight somebody who could compare with it.



I also remember a few randoms in soul society saying something along the lines of "we are squad 11, we are lead by the strongest captain and are the strongest squad, and so we are always the first into combat."

This post was edited by Thor123422 on Nov 2 2008 01:55pm

<DIV class=quote1>Quote (Thor123422 @ Sun, Nov 2 2008, 03:52pm)</DIV>
<DIV class=quote2><!--QuoteEBegin-->a few things you overlooked.

he didn't catch 2 captains that were running from him, they were leading him to a safer area to fight.

Just because he tought zaraki kendo doesn't mean hes stronger. All it means is that he watned zaraki to know it.

you can't judge his spirit pressure by using shikai state as an example because we barely got to see it, and we didn't see him fight with it at all. I didn't see a mushroom cloud from a swing of the sword when he awakened his shikai. Zaraki's energy looked way stronger than his.

he only leads the captanis because he has been captain the longest and pretty much established soul society

Kenpachi doesn't have the ability to speak w/ his sword and yet he is still so strong. That says somethin dude can you imagine power if he ever did learn his zanpakuto's name[/QUOTE]


Sorry, you can't defend him.
You can't say "he's stronger because he is"

Not working here.
Sorry.

I'll let the forum users judge who is stronger based on what I have stated.
Your bias is funny.

You saying he might be able to speak with it is the same as me saying he never will.
He's too dumb to learn. Not gona happen.


ANYWAYS I'm done here

Let's let the users decide.



That's ignorant as all hell.

This post was edited by Epion on Nov 2 2008 01:57pm

all im saying is that ur basing ur awnsers on crap. I can't say zaraki is stronger any more than u can say yamamoto is stornger simply because we haven't seen yamamoto fight. I just disproved everything you said in ur previous post.

yamamoto may be strong but hes still a decrepit old man

zaraki doesn't know shunpo but hes still damn fast being a captain and all



lol, the yamamoto being old comment was a joke

This post was edited by Thor123422 on Nov 2 2008 02:01pm

U 4get. Great captains can conceal there spirit energy alot better than Zaraki can

+ When Genryuusai released his zanpakuto, the spirit pressure almost choked nanao to dead, so much he was able to like telepathically speak w/ nanao and tell her to leave

Either way what he revealed wasn't anything compared to zaraki even if it wasn't him at full power.

Oh well, we can save this till yamamoto actually has a fight. (one that we get to watch)



Somebody plz explain to epion that the kenpachi is always captain of squad 11



and zaraki's nearly crushed everybody in the surrounding area even while he was at leisure

This post was edited by Thor123422 on Nov 2 2008 02:15pm

True.

Yikes!!!



BTW - it's gona be #1 espada vs Yamamoto (I'd say the two old men vs each other) - If barragan is even #1

This post was edited by Epion on Nov 2 2008 02:15pm