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Dec 14 2010 02:14pm
Quote (shsheik @ Dec 14 2010 11:42am)
it even says it.
zangetsu became a part of him.
they were seperate and fused.
he even talks about the body having more than one inhabitant.

the we have always been one and the same is referring to the fact that they are both part of his spiritual power makeup.

edit - go read chapter 411, it clearly shows they are seperate entities


there still the same whether there fused or not
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Dec 14 2010 03:51pm
Quote (lemonade1 @ Dec 14 2010 03:14pm)
there still the same whether there fused or not


sorry, i disagree.
give some evidence.
411 clearly shows them as seperate entities.
stating your argument again doesn't help me to see where you're coming from.
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Dec 14 2010 04:04pm
Quote (shsheik @ Dec 14 2010 04:51pm)
sorry, i disagree.
give some evidence.
411 clearly shows them as seperate entities.
stating your argument again doesn't help me to see where you're coming from.


agreed, they're separate entities that share ichigo's inner world

Quote (lemonade1 @ Dec 13 2010 10:07pm)
thats why his hollow turned into zangetsu when he was learning to control his vaizard powers right?
and thats why his hollow even said himself that there the same person right?

they're fighting for control but there still the same thing


if they were 2 seperate beings they would be in that sideways world at the same time


if he says dominance is given to me, then if the shinigami side lost its power, then dominance will be his again is what i'm getting at about what you're saying

This post was edited by Cyba on Dec 14 2010 04:06pm
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Dec 14 2010 08:30pm
show me where they say there not the same. you guys arent proving your side of the arguement, just because they can separate doesnt mean there not the same, i gave u guys proof of where he clearly says there the same. now its your turn to prove with evidence of them saying there not the same
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Dec 14 2010 08:55pm
Quote (lemonade1 @ Dec 14 2010 09:30pm)
show me where they say there not the same. you guys arent proving your side of the arguement, just because they can separate doesnt mean there not the same, i gave u guys proof of where he clearly says there the same. now its your turn to prove with evidence of them saying there not the same


go read chapter 411.
how is that not proof enough for you?
they are two parts of a single being, but they are DIFFERENT PARTS.
meaning they are not the same.
it says it explicitly.
losing one does not mean he loses the other.

and it's they're. sorry, but you fucked that up so many times i had to correct you.
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Quote (shsheik @ Dec 14 2010 10:55pm)
go read chapter 411.
how is that not proof enough for you?
they are two parts of a single being, but they are DIFFERENT PARTS.
meaning they are not the same.
it says it explicitly.
losing one does not mean he loses the other.

and it's they're.  sorry, but you fucked that up so many times i had to correct you.


show me where they say "WE ARE NOT THE SAME" and i will agree with u
ive asked for proof from u guys but all u can say is LOOK THERES 2 OF EM lol..

2 as 1.. 1 being the key word there.. ONE



This post was edited by lemonade1 on Dec 14 2010 09:21pm
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Dec 14 2010 10:21pm
my translation is different.



and what that means to me is that they are both part of his spiritual power, together they make up his power, but they are both parts.
and since together they make up the power, they are different parts

think of it like this.
your logical and abstract think both make up the entity of your mind.
they are two different things, but combine to make up one thing.
sometimes logic dominates your thinking, other times your creative abstract part does.
you can lose part of the way you think, but you can still think in terms of the other.

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Dec 14 2010 10:58pm
cut an orange in half.

same orange 2 parts

you proved me right with taht link, they said again there the same thing

u still havnt shown me any official quote that says they arent the same
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Dec 14 2010 11:55pm
does it really matter if they are different?
they are still one being
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Quote (lemonade1 @ Dec 14 2010 10:14pm)
show me where they say "WE ARE NOT THE SAME" and i will agree with u
ive asked for proof from u guys but all u can say is LOOK THERES 2 OF EM lol..

2 as 1.. 1 being the key word there.. ONE

http://8.p.s.mfcdn.net/store/manga/9/46-411.0/compressed/f411.0.09.jpg


nope, WERE is the key word here... they WERE two as one
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