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Dec 6 2011 02:49pm
Quote (Dragonox @ 6 Dec 2011 21:44)
Wasn't the Fullbringer Powers have something to do with Hollows to some extent i remember. that could mean that when he gets his Reaper powers back his hollow powers will return as well because they never left him since he was able to use Fullbring. i dunno could have sworn hearing them mention Hollows when they where talking about there powers in a earlier episode.


they were born with powers because of hollows ate their mother or so something.

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Just to give a hint, we don't even know that in the manga yet so I think I'm free to speculate here. Honestly, Kubo could make it go either way and have an equally good reason for whether he gets them back or not. He can say, "Well, he's only getting his shinigami powers back, so why would his Hollow powers come?" Or if he gets them, the reasoning would be, "Hollow powers were part of his shinigami powers, why wouldn't he get them back?" My guess is he'll have them.


Zangetsu and his hollow power are one person, ofc he got his hollow powers. If not then freaking bad.
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Dec 6 2011 03:51pm
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Zangetsu and his hollow power are one person, ofc he got his hollow powers. If not then freaking bad.


You'd think that even if that isn't the case, he is still a human and humans can become hollows by dying. Thats how he got them in the first place right?

Inb4 he dies and he become a hollow again

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Dec 6 2011 04:36pm
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You'd think that even if that isn't the case, he is still a human and humans can become hollows by dying.  Thats how he got them in the first place right?

Inb4 he dies and he become a hollow again


I hope not. I hated the whole, "Oh I have bankai I'm at captain level now! I got an even bigger power-up with the hollow thing which should make me super OP now right? Nope! I can't even smash the Espadas who are only captain level with my new ace in the hole even though all of the other captains I was able to match up to before can ez them np!"
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Dec 6 2011 05:08pm
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I hope not. I hated the whole, "Oh I have bankai I'm at captain level now! I got an even bigger power-up with the hollow thing which should make me super OP now right? Nope! I can't even smash the Espadas who are only captain level with my new ace in the hole even though all of the other captains I was able to match up to before can ez them np!"


I think he actually got weaker when he got his hollow mask (the first time it appeared vs byakuya) ; his zanpakuto and hollow were combined up until then, when they split he got weak, then when combined again super strong

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I think he actually got weaker when he got his hollow mask (the first time it appeared vs byakuya) ;  his zanpakuto and hollow were combined up until then, when they split he got weak, then when combined again super strong


Possibly. It also seems like Ichigo's bankai isn't special anymore with high-speed combat. Now it seems like he needs it just to fight on par with anyone else using their standard speed.
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Dec 6 2011 07:25pm
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Possibly. It also seems like Ichigo's bankai isn't special anymore with high-speed combat. Now it seems like he needs it just to fight on par with anyone else using their standard speed.


i think what happened was, kubo ranked up his strength too quick, then was like wait a minute... I dont want the manga to end yet... Better make him weak again.
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Dec 6 2011 07:27pm
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crap episode


Agreed. :(
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Dec 6 2011 07:32pm
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Possibly. It also seems like Ichigo's bankai isn't special anymore with high-speed combat. Now it seems like he needs it just to fight on par with anyone else using their standard speed.


Yeah, he was so fast the first time he used his bankai even Byakuya lost sight of him, yet he couldn't even touch Aizen when they clashed at Karakura town. Yeah sure Aizen said that was his basic strength, but fucking hell! :mad:

I know, I know. The answer is that Bleach is full of plot holes the size of Texas. :(
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Dec 6 2011 09:49pm
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Yeah, he was so fast the first time he used his bankai even Byakuya lost sight of him, yet he couldn't even touch Aizen when they clashed at Karakura town. Yeah sure Aizen said that was his basic strength, but fucking hell! :mad:

I know, I know. The answer is that Bleach is full of plot holes the size of Texas. :(


More like the size of Alaska, imo. He overwhelms Byakuya with his speed and then he's being outrun by other people np. I just don't get it. Ichigo should be the epitome of speed on that show, even showing Yoruichi saying, "his speed is far surpassed mine... and that power..."

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i think what happened was, kubo ranked up his strength too quick, then was like wait a minute... I dont want the manga to end yet...  Better make him weak again.


Good point. Ichigo was a total badass at the end of the SS arc (which was awesome). And then he just became average. I am disappoint.
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Dec 7 2011 09:07am
Quote (Taxidermy @ 6 Dec 2011 22:51)
You'd think that even if that isn't the case, he is still a human and humans can become hollows by dying.  Thats how he got them in the first place right?

Inb4 he dies and he become a hollow again


don't think that, he have only been close few times :P

I think it was when Urahara trained him in the hole
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