zoro is secretly stronger than hawkeye kappa

i was wondering about that lol if that is true, then wouldn't have his initial dream been accomplished? since hawk eye has been known to be the strongest swordsman around the world

but anyhow zoro has been my favorite character for a while

although it follows a trend in the crew that the stronger you are, the dumber you are (luffy is the dumbest has no common sense and bad direction sense, zoro has no direction sense, and sanji just loves girls)

but imo, out of all the crew, zoro knows about luffy's feelings more than anyone. luffy may be best friends with usopp and chopper, and zoro may just be always doing his own thing, but honestly...

zoro joined becuz he had a choice either to die or to join luffy as the 1st crewmate to ever join

but he knows the significance of being the 'captain' more than anyone, and it's more than a title. from the start, zoro has always followed luffy without a doubt, and helped bring down enemy's 2nd hand man.

the first hint of this was in the desert in arabasta when he was telling chopper about how everyone had their own goals, but hinted that there may be something else that brings all the crewmates together, and he was most likely referring to luffy as a captain bringing everyone together

luffy, while being the dumbest fucker probably in the whole one piece world, his insight and the line he draws between what is right and wrong are clearly keener that most. therefore, while most other pirates around the world go around rampaging helpless villages, fighting for fame and treasure, luffy is not swayed by the material greed that dictates most men. always coming accross ppl and willing to help ppl, zoro follows that without hesitation becuz he is the only one that knows the role of the captain

when nami drops down the leaf in sky island telling them to cut down the tree, zoro is the first one to act, without question, without hesitation. he is truly the 2nd in command, never doubting luffy, and always believing luffy's trust in his crewmates

another proof is after luffy fights usopp after they get into a heated argument, and everyone is crying, except zoro, luffy comments on how heavy it feels to make this decision, and zoro comments that 'that is what makes you captain'. another proof that no one truly knows the burden luffy actually carries as captain except for zoro himself.

i wouldn't be suprised if ever since the incident that the crew was split up, zoro's loyalty to luffy became complete. or maybe it was complete before then when he took on all of the pain luffy suffered during his fight with moria, and was more than prepared to give up his life for the sake of luffy's well-being and his dream. becuz the first line he ever said to luffy after joining was 'i will kill you if you get in the way of my ambitions'. clearly not the case anymore if he's willing to die before his dream has been fulfilled

that's y it's a secret kappa ° ͟ ͡°

This post was edited by Secksii on Dec 16 2014 02:22am

Actually Oda admitted Zoro is stronger than Luffy in general, the only reason Luffy wins in the end is Conqueror's Haki.
If Luffy didn't have that, Zoro would be stronger. (I remember reading an interview where he said it.)

Zoro is the one person who constantly trains to get stronger, has since the start.
I have a feeling he's going to be basically the next Rayleigh since they
even has the same scar around the eye, just the opposite eye (excluding that Zoro hasn't explained what happened and it hasn't even opened.)

This post was edited by OliverCloseov on Dec 16 2014 10:38am

really? iso proof of this

although i wouldn't be surprised either

and yeah that's what i was kind of getting at in my tl;dr post

just like rayleigh was the vice-captain of jolly roger pirates, zoro is the vice-captain of strawhat pirates, even though never, not even a single instance, in the manga did anyone explicitly say zoro was the vice-captain. but he truly is in every sense of the word



when he owned monet by exclusively not using haki and beating her with fear, that really got my anime pants wet. that was gg

This post was edited by Firaga on Dec 16 2014 10:39am

I'll look for it when I'm off work.. though I'm at work 90% of the time since it's near holiday.
At least I can be on jsp while here.

If you look it up he said it would be a draw though now and that's with conqueror's haki.

I still read it.
Yeah, I mean they are a lot alike and Zoro even said he refused to be a fruit eater because he doesn't want to lose his ability to swim.
I could see Zoro being an old buff guy that drinks and steals from people who are trying to buy slaves.
Let's just hope the ending of Roger/Rayleigh isn't the same.

i can see it being similar but not the same

they showed a brief flashback of how rayleigh actually joined roger, and roger just asked rayleigh while he was setting out on a boat to fish or something and asked him if he wanted to wreak havoc in the world with him (idk if shown in manga, this was in anime iirc), so there's already a difference there

bra, zoro is captain to me and luffy is just a rand

LOL gg

still waiting on zoro to be in bandage-serious mode

This post was edited by Firaga on Dec 16 2014 11:19am

if zoro goes srs mode, it'll make doffy buggy tier
so he has to hold back, for the sake of this arc