Quote (Black487 @ Nov 7 2010 10:35am)
Haki isn't even close to an automatic win. If you don't remember the snake sisters & enel used haki.
They were all toast. If you ask me these V-admirals are weaker then many of the opponents luffy's already ousted.
You're severely discounting luffy's ability to overcome.
luffy beat the snake sisters using his kings haki, and he only beat enel because he was the perfect match to beat enel
Quote (TupacAshakur @ Nov 7 2010 10:40am)
I agree on this part honestly, Vice admirals for Luffy is nothing, as you can see he has already defeated 2 Shibukai, making him an average strong guy which cannot be compared by some low marines.
nightmare luffy beat oars, otherwise he;d be dead, and nightmare luffy is by far the strongest he's ever been