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#5951
Apr 12 2010 11:04am
Quote (prslol @ Apr 12 2010 12:42pm)
ya well it also follows his repetitive nature.

3 main ninja groups
Jariya, Tsunde, Oro
Naruto,Sakura,Sasuke
Kakashi, Obito, Rin

1 genius, 1 medical girl ninja, 1 goofy tard

goofy tard is in love with medical girl ninja. genius goes evil. cept in the case of kakashi's group where essentially Obito would go evil if hes Tobi. Just a slight difference like how the medical ninja girl loves the genius except in Tsunde's case. I don't remember her loving Oro.

Pretty sure even Danzous group was similar from what I remember. He was also the goofy ninja and kind of "turned bad."

I think this also shows that just because Obito was a crybaby goofy ninja doesn't mean he can't be strong now. Since Danzou, Jariya and Naruto were all the same.

Although I don't think he is offensively strong since he was most likely trained by Zetsu and he wants to use Sasuke so badly.


As for Kabuto I have no idea what his intentions are.


Obito might turn on Konoha because of all the stuff regarding his clan. Theres also a possiblity that Rin died similarly to whitefang which would  upset him. Also I wouldn't really say hes against Konoha either. His goal is to collect all the tailed beasts so that he can create his own peaceful world. The whole revenge on Konoha thing just seems like his way to manipulate Sasuke into defeating Naruto for him.


Naruto and Jiraya never went bad though. I don't see how you're trying to connect Obito, Danzou, Jiraya, and Naruto other than they were/are all "goofy?"

As for Tobi using Sasuke, that is exactly what he is doing. He told Sasuke the entire truth about Itachi, except for the VERY important detail that essentially (in my opinion) led Sasuke to turn on the Leaf -- he told Sasuke that the Kyubi was a freak accident, when in reality (I think) Madara controlled it to attack the Leaf. You see, the fox attacking the Leaf on it's own WOULD make it a freak accident and WOULD justify Sasuke's hate because the Uchiha people would not be a threat. However, since that isn't the truth (again that's what I've gathered), and since Madara really DID control the Kyubi, Sasuke's views have been twisted.

E: If that makes no sense my bad

Quote (five33 @ Apr 12 2010 12:53pm)
cause your to lazy to look at anything but the last page and im to lazy to retype



then there is this





tobi has a deep vandeta for the uchiha clan this is obvious seeing how he made the deal with itachi  to leave the whole village alone for his help to kill all the uchiha


Thanks for showing me that. I'm not trying to piss anyone off or trying to invalidate anyone's theories. I'm just looking for other people to talk about this shit with. Most of my friends hate Naruto because of the english dubs/hate for anime in general. They fail to realize Shippuden is really VERY well written and exciting. I made a few of them watch the English sub of the arc with Kakuzu and Hidan (my favorite arc in the anime). They loved that. It's impossible to make people read manga.
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#5952
Apr 12 2010 11:12am
Quote (Edyrem @ Apr 12 2010 11:02am)
lmao Yeah I'm gonna be honest I didn't check if danzo crushed his eye with his hand, but I reached a conclusive argument for real this time:

Who cares bro we'll find out later.


quite honestly i dont think the obito idea is right any how, but im not going to be closed minded and shut any thing out, there are a few similarities between the two that cant be denied,

i was fairly confident tobi = madara, but i been wracking my mind and i can not think of anything thing that would freak tobi out like he did with that last coffin, the "secret"

so i started looking at other ideas and im just being openminded to them, if you noticed my first tl;dr post i made i said several times i dont think its right but i see it as a potential possibility,

i think Madaras brother taking the eyes of madara before he dies is more fee sable then tobi= obito but im not going to troll in here calling people names for there ideas i will read them with an open mind and post my thoughts on why i think they are right or wrong

But in all honestly im still mostly leaning on Tobi = Madara and he used izangi during the fight with the first to turn his death into a dream to escape alive but at the cost of his eye, and whats in the coffin is some plot twist that hasn't been intrudeced yet
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Apr 12 2010 11:15am
Quote (five33 @ Apr 12 2010 08:12pm)
quite honestly i dont think the obito idea is right any how,  but im not going to be closed minded and shut any thing out,  there are a few similarities between the two that cant be denied,

i was fairly confident tobi = madara, but i been wracking my mind and i can not think of anything thing that would freak tobi out like he did with that last coffin,  the "secret" 

so i started looking at other ideas and im just being openminded to them,  if you noticed my first tl;dr post i made i said several times  i dont think its right but i see it as a potential possibility,

i think  Madaras brother taking the eyes of madara before he dies is more fee sable  then tobi= obito  but im not going to troll in here calling people names for there ideas i will read them with an open mind and post my thoughts on why  i think they are  right or wrong 

But in all honestly im still mostly leaning on  Tobi = Madara and  he used izangi during the fight with the first to turn his death into a dream to escape alive but at the cost of his eye,  and whats in the coffin is some plot twist that hasn't been intrudeced yet


ok man thats cool and all but lets change the subject cause this is getting boring and bitter.
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#5954
Apr 12 2010 11:21am
Quote (Edyrem @ Apr 12 2010 11:15am)
ok man thats cool and all but lets change the subject cause this is getting boring and bitter.


naruto = reincarnation of jesus
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Apr 12 2010 11:57am
Quote (five33 @ Apr 12 2010 08:21pm)
naruto = reincarnation of jesus


I deem this correct. Court is adjourned.
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#5956
Apr 12 2010 01:30pm
im not connecting those individuals. I'm connecting the 3 main ninja groups in the story. all of them have similarities and only kakashi's group has been so mysterious. I only used Danzou and Tsunde as examples of how he slightly has changed different groups. So since Kakashi hasn't turned evil there is a strong possiblity one of the other 2 is. As he has done that with the other 2 main groups in the story.

So of course it could be Rin who has ripped out a Sharingan and replaced her own eye with it. Since she already did it once successfully and she is using a jutsu similar to Tsundes that makes her look young to look like Obito.

Thats the super bleach like twist.
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#5957
Apr 12 2010 02:27pm
you know what would make me laugh? If Sasuke opens his eyes for the first time and it is pitch black because itachi over-used them and made them worthless rofl.

Quote (Edyrem @ Apr 12 2010 11:15am)
ok man thats cool and all but lets change the subject cause this is getting boring and bitter.


agreed, honestly there can be no further discussion on teh tobi/obito subject. It is 100% speculation that obito = tobi and there is no real evidence for it, just hooks and unanswered questions that everybody is swearing means tobi = obito.

This post was edited by Thor123422 on Apr 12 2010 02:30pm
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#5958
Apr 12 2010 04:44pm
Quote (Edyrem @ Apr 12 2010 01:21am)
Yes you can make an argument or theory invalid, you do it by compelling logic. Which I did.

I'm only annoyed at the fact that you're overlooking a crucial point I made and are still rolling with this stupid idea.

And you just admitted that you flamed me recently, which you did.
You and TR0LL called me retarded/faggot, over a stupid discussion, so you know what? Eat it, bitch.
Don't tell me 'not to put people down' when you're the one who dropped his courtesy first.

Don't throw rocks if you live in a house of glass.

Plus, i've been adding important info each post but your feelings seem so hurt that all you pay attention to is the fact that I gave you a taste of your own medicine, tenfold.
Actually read my relevant points and understand who's right.

Then again, you're at the stubborn point of no return and you'll never admit that you're wrong. So maybe it IS pointless to discuss this with you any further

Next subject.


i only called you retarded, idc if you like men, and you have one point, that obito got "crushed"

compared to our many and danzo didnt crush himself, he used the eye jutsu that demolished his body+eye, there is no more existence of that eye

and madara is said to be dead, so he could be the one in the coffin

izuna didnt have his eyes "ripped" out, they were taken out, he was still alive, and no conformation that he's dead other then rumors

fact kakashi was only a child, zetsu is an un-named age, he could have been alive to do that and heal the body

fact, danzo didnt use his hand to crush the sharingan, he used the jutsu

fact, there is a difference between a crushed eye, and an obliterated one, re-read the manga, he used a jutsu, not his hand lol

also a fact, there was no confirmed body of obito, the gravesite was just a memorial site :)

also who in the ninja world said a crushed eye cannot be repaired inb4 u say danzo crushed it with his hand again lol




sry for re-bringing this up btw, not gna get attacked while im at work without a rebuttle,

This post was edited by TR0LL on Apr 12 2010 04:45pm
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#5959
Apr 12 2010 06:37pm
wow you guys are still seriously going at it?
... lmfao
I'd probably quit reading the manga if either rin/obito would turn out to be tobi... that would be such a homosexual plot twist like seriously...

This post was edited by SmokeIsDaMan on Apr 12 2010 06:39pm
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#5960
Apr 12 2010 08:06pm
Quote (Cyba @ Feb 18 2008 12:14am)
imo, itachi should just get his gang on sasuke... or is itachi trying to force sasuke to get the mangekyou during battle?


.. imma spoil this for u

sasuke kills itachi, itcachi is good and he just wanted to protect sasuke, itachi gives mangekyou to sasuke and he can use amaterasu ....

no way this is the latest mange, this happened like 10 episodes ago
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