they look alive and well to me

You fucking hypocrite.
The ones who flamed first were you and TR0LL, you dumb son of a bitch.

Then you go and parade your ridiculous idea that tobi = obito even after I completely rendered your arguments invalid.
Who's really spamming here?
Go back and actually fucking read the points I made about the fact that obito ONLY HAD ONE EYE REMAINING and it's sitting inside Kakashi's left eye socket.

And I've been making an intelligent [albeit sarcastic] point with the pasta, which if you weren't so dumb you would understand, but I guess your tiny brain couldn't think beyond the pasta example I used.
I guess I can understand why you wouldn't be able to comprehend such a simple point, since you believe in such an illogical idea as tobi=obito.

For tobi to be obito, the author of naruto manga would've had to have seriously fucked up the logic in the manga. But if he had common sense then he wouldn't make tobi obito.
Therefore i'm not saying it's impossible that tobi = obito [the author could just choose to make it obito], but I'm saying that no logical person would lead to that conclusion based on the evidence we have.

You're both idiots. Case Closed. Next discussion.



HOLY SHIT GUYS LOL THE BYAKUGAN GUY IS WEARING ALMOST THE EXACT SAME SHIT AS HAKU.

This post was edited by Edyrem on Apr 12 2010 02:16am

i dont think i have ever flames you until recently ,

and you cant make an argument or a theory invalid,

this is a place to discuss ones opinions and ideas, all you do is troll in here and put people down ,

if you dont have something to add then dont post

Yes you can make an argument or theory invalid, you do it by compelling logic. Which I did.

I'm only annoyed at the fact that you're overlooking a crucial point I made and are still rolling with this stupid idea.

And you just admitted that you flamed me recently, which you did.
You and TR0LL called me retarded/faggot, over a stupid discussion, so you know what? Eat it, bitch.
Don't tell me 'not to put people down' when you're the one who dropped his courtesy first.

Don't throw rocks if you live in a house of glass.

Plus, i've been adding important info each post but your feelings seem so hurt that all you pay attention to is the fact that I gave you a taste of your own medicine, tenfold.
Actually read my relevant points and understand who's right.

Then again, you're at the stubborn point of no return and you'll never admit that you're wrong. So maybe it IS pointless to discuss this with you any further.

Next subject.

This post was edited by Edyrem on Apr 12 2010 02:24am

the only flame i have said to you was you were spamming i think you got me mixed up with some one else i have not called you retarded or a faggot

nn mis placed raged, and what is this all godly fact that makes obito invalid? please do tell cause im sure i can come up with a logical way around that.

and honestly dude this is not your thread if troll and i want to discuss the possibility of obito being madara then we can. i mean after all we are doing what this thread is meant for discussing opinions and theories

I know for a fact that TR0LL dissed me, and I'm pretty sure you did too.
And don't think that my posts are only directed to you.
You're both also defending a very repetitive and old idea. I'm allowed to discuss with you guys too. Freedom of speech. I wasn't spamming.
And if you dissed me I'm free to diss you back without being the bad guy.

Regarding my "godly point", you should be able to read past posts and actually pay attention to the points I made, but I'll be polite enough to say it AGAIN.

I'll do it in direct, clear points for you to follow and connect the dots more easily.

CAUTION: CONCLUSIVE EVIDENCE AHEAD
-Fact: Rock so heavy sitting on obito's right side.
-Fact: Kakashi couldn't even shove it off of obito
-Fact: Obito was bleeding hard from the rock. [Oh wait, didn't TR0LL mention insist that Karin should've been bleeding to death when she was recieving a thin stab? Hmm, entire side of body gashed open... bleeding + crushed right side for Obito, but NOO, TR0LL insists that Obito survived]
-Rational Assumption: That must be some crushing weight on Obito if a ninja who was already jounin couldn't even push it off.

-Fact: Kakashi received Obito's left eye.
-Fact: Obito only has right eye, which is under a heavy stone that kakashi couldn't even push away.
-Fact: Rock was not floating over obito's body.
-Fact: Rock so heavy that a jounin naruto ninja couldn't push would have bone-breaking weight -- Putting it fucking mildly.
-Fact: Eyes are less dense than bones.
-Rational Assumption: Right eye got squashed by X ton rock, leaving him with no eyes left.

Not enough for you? Let's consider this...

-Fact: Danzo used his hand to crush his right sharingan eye just before dying.
-Fact: A ninja can crush his eye in a split-second with one hand.
-Fact: Excruciatingly heavy boulder sitting on skull for a long, long time.
-Rational Assumption: If a chakra-drained, tired, old ninja could crush his eye in a split-second just with one hand, then a rock that a vigorous jounin couldn't shove away is surely a no-brainer.

-Fact: Tobi, who had all of Zetzu's skill at his disposal, couldn't do anything to fix the crushed eye.
-Rational Assumption: There's no way Zetzu could've brought obito back to life, or restore his right eye, if he couldn't help Tobi with danzo's eye.

IF THE RATIONAL ASSUMPTIONS ARE INDEED TRUE, THEN:

• The boulder crushed Obito's last eye, rendering it crushed beyond repair.
• Tobi's sharingan ability is not Obito's sharingan ability since he does not have Obito's sharingan.
• Tobi is not Obitobecause Obito died in the final earthquake finisher.

Now, just one more thing to ask y'all...
WHO DA MAN!?? WHO!! DA!!! MAN!!!


This post was edited by Edyrem on Apr 12 2010 03:19am

I'm so incredibly confused about what is really going on here

shitstorm.

The post above you is me going all out in the hopes of concluding this discussion.

-Rational Assumption: If a chakra-drained, tired, old ninja could crush his eye in a split-second just with one hand, then a rock that a vigorous jounin couldn't shove away is surely a no-brainer.

cept he didnt do that. he basically self destructed with some jutsu.

and like i said before tobi's body was never said to be entirely crushed. which means zetsu wouldn't have to revive him or completely restore his eye. is it possible that zetsu healed his body? probably he seems to be a strong support type ninja were not sure if hes capable of doing that.

have anything interesting to say or are you just going to babble on about the same bullshit with the maturity level of a 12 year old?

i could rant like a 12 y/o retard too about the other theories.

RATIONALZ AZZUMPTIONZ - MADARA DIED TO DA 1ST HOKAGEZ CANT POSSIBLY BEZ HIM.
RATIONALZ AZZUMPTIONZ - IZUNA HAD BOTH HIS EYEZ RIPPS OUT AND WOULDVE HAD TO RIP MADARAS EYEZ OUT BEFORE HE DIED AND WOULD BE OLD AS DIRTZ NOW

so using RATIONAL AZZUMPTIONSZ ive come to the conclusion that all the theories are wrong and you're all retards.

there is evidence leading tobi to be any of those 3 people and all of them involve far fetched stories get over it. its a manga about ninjas with magical powers...