Quote (five33 @ Apr 11 2010 07:41pm)

Obioto was all ready a chunin and he passed the test at age 11,  so he had some decent basic skill down,  not to mention his teacher was the 4th hokage him self, so im sure he got some bad ass training after the ninja academy

as for motive there are plenty,  he could be upset at the true history the village put his clan threw, he could be upset of the death of rin, "i dont think he killed rin his self", 

Zetsu is a mysterious character and isnt a strong fighting type but seems to have plenty of support moves, he could of easily saved/ healed obito, and  zetsu could of taken him to the land of grass  as a prisoner before he exiled to try and get info on the blood limit of the uchia or such and threw extreme torture done to obito "to get info on the shargian and leaf village its self" he could of awakend the MS  and zetsu saw the potential and rembered the legends of madara and decided to help him in some manner,  or  some one else in the land of grass saved obito and zetsu and obito were in captivity together and in obitos torture he awakened it and saved him self and zetsu and zetsu has been loyal from then

kakshi was 10 when obioto was crushed and he is 32 now  "28 when he first met naruto and its 4 years later"  so if obito awakend it under torture at age 12 or so  he  has had 30 years to get bad ass before we met him

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the point of my post is  we dont know the history of tobi and we cant confirm or deny theories, in this crazy ninja world any thing can happen,  i mean fuck there is a guy who get his head cut off and he still  alive due to a religion

and there are quite of few connections between tobi and obito

Quote (five33 @ 12 Apr 2010 04:41)

Obioto was all ready a chunin and he passed the test at age 11,  so he had some decent basic skill down,  not to mention his teacher was the 4th hokage him self, so im sure he got some bad ass training after the ninja academy

as for motive there are plenty,  he could be upset at the true history the village put his clan threw, he could be upset of the death of rin, "i dont think he killed rin his self", 

Zetsu is a mysterious character and isnt a strong fighting type but seems to have plenty of support moves, he could of easily saved/ healed obito, and  zetsu could of taken him to the land of grass  as a prisoner before he exiled to try and get info on the blood limit of the uchia or such and threw extreme torture done to obito "to get info on the shargian and leaf village its self" he could of awakend the MS  and zetsu saw the potential and rembered the legends of madara and decided to help him in some manner,  or  some one else in the land of grass saved obito and zetsu and obito were in captivity together and in obitos torture he awakened it and saved him self and zetsu and zetsu has been loyal from then

kakshi was 10 when obioto was crushed and he is 32 now  "28 when he first met naruto and its 4 years later"  so if obito awakend it under torture at age 12 or so  he  has had 20 years to get bad ass before we met him

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the point of my post is  we dont know the history of tobi and we cant confirm or deny theories, in this crazy ninja world any thing can happen,  i mean fuck there is a guy who get his head cut off and he still  alive due to a religion

and there are quite of few connections between tobi and obito

Quote (prslol @ Apr 11 2010 09:42pm)

how do we even know Obito is strong? other than apparently being mizukage if that is even true, i think someone said that person mixed that up and zetsu was mizukage. the only thing Obito has done is use the dimensional jutsu shit to dodge. i've yet to see him attack from what i can remember.

also is it confirmed that zetsu isn't strong offensively? I only remember them saying that one of his halves has no offensive ability (the white one i think).

Quote (prslol @ Apr 11 2010 10:42pm)

how do we even know Obito is strong? other than apparently being mizukage if that is even true, i think someone said that person mixed that up and zetsu was mizukage. the only thing Obito has done is use the dimensional jutsu shit to dodge. i've yet to sen him attack from what i can remember.

also is it confirmed that zetsu isn't strong offensively? I only remember them saying that one of his halves has no offensive ability (the white one i think).

Quote (five33 @ Apr 11 2010 10:49pm)

Tobi said zetsu was not a "frontline fighter"  take it how u want to me it means he is more of a  gorilla war fare cheap trick kind of guy with some good support jutsu like the one he used with kisame ,  not a all out  battle royal type of fighter.

and Tobi has not really done any thing  to show his strength he makes others fight and he sits and watches  but what we do know is tobi used the fox to attack the leaf  so he must be pretty strong to do that,  the fox being the strongest of the tailed beast, only 4 people are  said to have been able to completely control a bijuu  , the 1st, Tobi, Killer Bee, and the 3rd Mizukage  i forget his name something like Yukgo,  Also the 3rd mizukage was under a gentsu  and being controled by some one many believe this to be tobi  also,    and as far as i know zetsu wasent the mizukage tobi was  so tobi was the mizukage then he was controlling the next one  the 3rd mizukage ,  with that much political power in the mist  i think there is going to be some serious plot twist coming out of there,  perhaps a army like danzou set up in root a secret one  or something

Quote (Thor123422 @ Apr 11 2010 10:54pm)

he took out danzo's body guards who we can assume are pretty high level considering they were in root with him and he assigned them as his personal body guards so we know he is pretty strong.

Quote (Edyrem @ Apr 12 2010 12:32am)

TR0LL, just so you know, I see what you're doing, and you're obviously just trying to fuck with people by constantly backing up this stupid theory.
Go be a fail troll somewhere else, we're trying to have a discussion here.

You piss me off so much.

Quote (five33 @ Apr 11 2010 10:02pm)

he simply transported them away

and i think one of them was shown on a cover or something implying they were going to be apart of the up coming war