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Apr 10 2010 02:16pm
Quote (OsD @ Apr 10 2010 01:06pm)
Does anyone want to tell me why people think
Izuna = tobi?
wtf why is izuna even being discussed other then the fact he MAY and probablly not, might be the one in that casket.
+ the fact is the in the anime, the 3rd stopped orochimarus summoning because he saw the first two come up already
so lets stop the third one before it summons right?.. i mean come on its common sense, hes not going to let all of them be summoned while he watchs
the 4th is strong no lies, but i doubt that he has that impact to scare the balls off of tobi I'm saying tobi because its still undecided who he really is
although my vote does go to Obito as we speak.

for all we know kakashi killed rin to obtain his MS and obito felt the loss of his lover rin
once again i'm just being hypothetical
so just play it out.


kakashi didnt kill rin, he didnt even know about the MS

he could very well be izuna, we heard he died, but no solid proof other then "i heard he died"

third hokage stopped the 4th because he didnt want naruto/kyuubi rage, OR because the 4th knew the death seal technique

its more likely its izuna, and that he snatched obitos eye, and that madara is in the coffin
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Apr 10 2010 02:17pm
ur all fools, kabuto obv has the first hokage, or madaras brother in the coffin.
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Apr 10 2010 03:40pm
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but kisame has no clue what  obioto looks like sooo if obioto is pretending to be madara how would he know the difference? 


this is assuming the first did in fact kill the real madara and obitot is playing on the legend of madara


b/c iirc tobi is too young to have been mizukage when madara was......so unless madara looks like he is in his teens or younger then i dont see how obito can pull such a thing off......especially since he was as bad if not worse than naruto was at that age.

and b4 someone says "well look at naruto now, he is that shit", obito was a nobody. even with a sharingan he only has 1 left and nobody has any reason to give him all the special training naruto got. he also didnt have anything like a tailed beast.

only thing i could possibly contribute to obito pretending to be madara and madara is really dead is -> zetsu said itachis genjutsu was in one eye and ninjutsu was in the other eye. if that is universal for all uchiha then obito either has no ninjutsu or genjutsu that might be why he claims he has been weakened by his fight with the 1st (obito only has 1 sharingan)
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Apr 10 2010 04:19pm
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b/c iirc tobi is too young to have been mizukage when madara was......so unless madara looks like he is in his teens or younger then i dont see how obito can pull such a thing off......especially since he was as bad if not worse than naruto was at that age.

and b4 someone says "well look at naruto now, he is that shit",  obito was a nobody. even with a sharingan he only has 1 left and nobody has any reason to give him all the special training naruto got. he also didnt have anything like a tailed beast.

only thing i could possibly contribute to obito pretending to be madara and madara is really dead is -> zetsu said itachis genjutsu was in one eye and ninjutsu was in the other eye. if that is universal for all uchiha then obito either has no ninjutsu or genjutsu that might be why he claims he has been weakened by his fight with the 1st (obito only has 1 sharingan)


interesting
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Apr 10 2010 04:19pm
Quote (ridman2000 @ Apr 10 2010 03:40pm)
b/c iirc tobi is too young to have been mizukage when madara was......so unless madara looks like he is in his teens or younger then i dont see how obito can pull such a thing off......especially since he was as bad if not worse than naruto was at that age.

and b4 someone says "well look at naruto now, he is that shit",  obito was a nobody. even with a sharingan he only has 1 left and nobody has any reason to give him all the special training naruto got. he also didnt have anything like a tailed beast.

only thing i could possibly contribute to obito pretending to be madara and madara is really dead is -> zetsu said itachis genjutsu was in one eye and ninjutsu was in the other eye. if that is universal for all uchiha then obito either has no ninjutsu or genjutsu that might be why he claims he has been weakened by his fight with the 1st (obito only has 1 sharingan)


we dont know when madara was mizukage other then before the girl

and one would assume obioto or madara uses the 50 eyes on the wall to swap out
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Apr 10 2010 04:53pm
Quote (five33 @ Apr 10 2010 05:19pm)
we dont know when madara was mizukage other then before the girl

and one would assume obioto or madara uses the 50 eyes on the wall to swap out


well i think kakashi is proof that eyes arent as strong in a new body as they are in the original body unless related
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Apr 10 2010 04:56pm
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well i think kakashi is proof that eyes arent as strong in a new body as they are in the original body unless related


its more along the lines of a uchia body is better suited for the eyes, normal bodies cant handle them well i dont think relation matters as long as your a blood member of the clan

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Apr 10 2010 05:09pm
it could also be possible that it is infact Obito because Kakashi has a MS. Both tobi and Kakashi have MS and if we assume Kakashi wouldn't kill someone to gain the powers of MS maybe its possible he obtained it when Obito killed someone (likely Rin) to gain his MS. If Obito is actually dead then there needs to be an explaination of how Kakashi got his MS.

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Apr 10 2010 05:23pm
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it could also be possible that it is infact Obito because Kakashi has a MS. Both tobi and Kakashi have MS and if we assume Kakashi wouldn't kill someone to gain the powers of MS maybe its possible he obtained it when Obito killed someone (likely Rin) to gain his MS. If Obito is actually dead then there needs to be an explaination of how Kakashi got his MS.


so obioto killed the love of his life one day for no reason eh?
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Apr 10 2010 05:25pm
Quote (five33 @ Apr 10 2010 04:23pm)
so obioto killed the love of his life  one day  for no reason eh?


maybe he wanted the MS

he could have read the shit sasGAY read

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