Quote (GuZ @ Mar 19 2010 10:14am)

Is it just me, or are both Bleach and Naruto only getting worse and worse while One Piece is stayin' great and getting better by each chapter?

The most annoying thing about this series is that it started out sooooo good. The characters had dimensions and layers and verisimilitude. The main character used to be funny and relateable. The story used to be driving towards a particular end and the arcs used to contribute to that end.
Now the main characters have all shed dimensions. Nartuto isn't the #1 unpredictable knucklehead ninja anymore. The only thing left of his personality is his serious side and his Sasuke obsession. Sasuke doesn't even have his own personality anymore, he has Orochimaru's. And Sakura....well, for a while she had the most depth out of the main characters. Unfortunately her only purpose is apparently to make everyone around her look cooler by comparison.

And the story. All I have to say is Moon's Eye Plan and that about sums it up. I get what Kishi is trying to do with his story and I give him credit for trying something difficult but he has strayed too far from his strengths and the story has suffered for it.
I'm not even sure why I'm reading this shit anymore. Naruto has gone from great to absolutly terrible.

Kishi might as well just change the name of the manga to Sasuke - The Emo Avenger, let him and Naruto use some "Talk No Jutsu" (the most overused ability in the series), fuck each other for a few chapters and spare us busy people some valuable time.

And Bleach, lol! Just look how much the story have progressed in the last 3 years ? They haven't even rescued Orihime yet and I've even forgot Aizen's purpose of destroying Ichigo's town to begin with.

Quote (five33 @ Mar 19 2010 05:19pm)

your time is so busy your annoyed with wasting  2 min on a chapter but yet you still  have the time to troll and post wall of rage txt on a gaming website non the least, 

imo you got more time then you let on so less rage

Quote (GuZ @ Mar 19 2010 12:14pm)

Is it just me, or are both Bleach and Naruto only getting worse and worse while One Piece is stayin' great and getting better by each chapter?

The most annoying thing about this series is that it started out sooooo good. The characters had dimensions and layers and verisimilitude. The main character used to be funny and relatable. The story used to be driving towards a particular end and the arcs used to contribute to that end.
Now the main characters have all shed dimensions. Nartuto isn't the #1 unpredictable knucklehead ninja anymore. The only thing left of his personality is his serious side and his Sasuke obsession. Sasuke doesn't even have his own personality anymore, he has Orochimaru's. And Sakura....well, for a while she had the most depth out of the main characters. Unfortunately her only purpose is apparently to make everyone around her look cooler by comparison.

And the story. All I have to say is Moon's Eye Plan and that about sums it up. I get what Kishi is trying to do with his story and I give him credit for trying something difficult but he has strayed too far from his strengths and the story has suffered for it.
I'm not even sure why I'm reading this shit anymore. Naruto has gone from great to absolutely terrible.

Kishi might as well just change the name of the manga to Sasuke - The Emo Avenger, let him and Naruto use some "Talk No Jutsu" (the most overused ability in the series), fuck each other for a few chapters and spare us busy people some valuable time.

And Bleach, lol! Just look how much the story have progressed in the last 3 years ? They haven't even rescued Orihime yet and I've even forgot Aizen's purpose of destroying Ichigo's town to begin with.

Quote (ReZZ_KING @ 19 Mar 2010 00:13)

why the first seemed to be nothing special compared to todays top dogs in his time yes he was strong sarutobi took on the first and second and almost took out orochi to using the fourths move and they were implying that the fourth was stronger than saru at his age at least so thats two ninjas that ez the first and jiraiya was up for hokage instead of the fourth and for the fifth but he didnt want it

madara was defeated by the first in his PRIME he himself stated he is very weak compared to his old self

ok and comparing anyone to the sage of 6 paths has what point? and pain was the frontman leader of the akatsuki the whole time.... maybe madara used him so the members would listen cuz madara not strong enuff to boss them this is just a rand thought tho

when u say it is clear that madara is stronger than pain everything u say after that says nothing to help ur case

Quote (mcbatch @ Mar 19 2010 02:26pm)

ok if the first is so weak? why was he able to beat madara in his PRIME like u said?

Quote (ridman2000 @ Mar 19 2010 04:21pm)

the first wasnt weak, but its been said in this manga a dozen times. the next generation surpasses the last. the first and his brother were one generation, followed by sarutob's generationi, followed by minato's generation. right now we are between kakashi's generation and naruto's generation, but since kakashi's generation is so young im not sure the 2 arent the same generation

Quote (ridman2000 @ Mar 19 2010 03:21pm)

the first wasnt weak, but its been said in this manga a dozen times. the next generation surpasses the last. the first and his brother were one generation, followed by sarutob's generationi, followed by minato's generation. right now we are between kakashi's generation and naruto's generation, but since kakashi's generation is so young im not sure the 2 arent the same generation

Quote (Thor123422 @ Mar 19 2010 06:04pm)

the next generation does not SURPASS the last, the point of all that talk is that the next generation is the future.  They don't say they will become stronger (although Naruto probably will since he has the fox and is main character and yadda yadda)

Quote (DinURa @ Mar 19 2010 04:14pm)

I think Konohamaru is gonna be a beast. He's like twelve and he's already mastered the Rasengan. Pretty epic imo.

Quote (Thor123422 @ Mar 19 2010 06:51pm)

the rasengan is probably a lot simpler with a shadow clone like Naruto and Konohamaru use.  Neither of them have mastered it, they can't do it 1 handed like all the others can.