also on another note how did madara get the rinnigian? did he take it from pain if so were is konan madara kill her?

uh he dosent have it yet he said he was going to go collect it

i assumed he was already dead and he was implying he was going to pop it out of his skull like he was using it recently not take it out as in destroy or kill nagato

this has been discussed many times and not enough info has been given to come to any conclusion

there are alot of things pointing to the fact obito could be madaras vessel (for example obitos left eye was never recovered and thats the only eye madara shows + same hair + obitos body was crushed and madara can make his body disapear)

I see what you mean about Obito's eye and the hair but you lost me with his body being crushed. How would that allow his body to pass through solid objects?

my idea was that madara eye and kakashi eye both use dimension MS

im not saying madara is obioto or he is using obiotos body i think he took his eye some how is what im thinking,

and all uchiah are black hair it wouldn't be to much of a surprise to have 2 people with spiked hair out of 100's of clan members not to mention madara had long crazy hair so being cut short would mean short spikey hair

dont really know how to explain where i was going with that

i c i tho cos obito could have unlocked that ability when the rocks where passing and moved out of the way .. zetsu could have taken him unconc and just made a faux body..(he isnt combat type so im sure he has some sort of gd skills)

i eman be well gd if madara is actually dead and obito is gettign his own personal revenge with konoha...

I doubt Obito unlocked mangekyo teleport ability 2 seconds after getting his sharingan for the first time.

haha, really though.
I do have a love for kakashi/obito though.
Like that whole section of there childhood
i was hooked on taht even when jiraya was fighting pein hahaha.

to tell you all the truth, my favorite characters are
jiraya/kakashi/orochimaru/ and kisame.
each had there own traits, instead of some BS kekkei genkai (other then kakashi who has limits on his MS) or tailed beast.
jiraya = sage mode, and more towards the pusher of the Rasengan not created, but pretty damn important to it, and his summoning jutsu of toads haha.
kakashi = chidori, MS sharingan WITHOUT uchiha body and only person to do that infact except maybe danzo, and common sense, and such.
orochimaru = just saying snakes makes me scared of him, Perfector of many a jutsu, and practically was immortal, how cool is that <_<.
kisame = Chakra, chakra, chakra, Giant sword FTW.