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Dec 6 2013 04:49am
Quote (Vocaloid @ 6 Dec 2013 04:29)
No, I clearly asked why you believe yours is correct.


Because I choose to believe that a life of purity is possible. Why would I want to believe in a life that sucks like you? Neither of us can convince the other.
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Dec 6 2013 04:53am
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Because I choose to believe that a life of purity is possible. Why would I want to believe in a life that sucks like you? Neither of us can convince the other.


so you think life sucks because we can not fly?


lets discuss the supernatural for a moment.

if something interacts with the natural would then it is capable of being observed by science.

if one believe the the supernatural interacts with the natural world, for examples "God" performing miracles or spirits crossing over between worlds then one would be acknowledging that this believe is capable of being tested by science.

once the supernatural world interacts with the natural world it is officially part of the natural world and therefor can be observed by science.

taking this view one must realize that science is capable of proving or disproving ones beliefs.

at this moment there is no evidence that the natural world interacts with anything supernatural, however there is a possibility that there is some form of interaction within one or more of the dimensions that exists in the multiverse theory, if you believe in the multiverse.

if one believes the supernatural world can not be observed by science, then that person would be acknowledging that natural and supernatural worlds do not, and can not interact with each other.. and this would make the existence of anything super natural irrelevant.

there is no point in believing in the supernatural world since it's vary existence is irrelevant.

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Quote (GoGoData @ 6 Dec 2013 04:29)
So, let me repeat this back to you so that I can begin to straighten this out in my mind.
How does intuition ,which you're loosely referring to as premonition in this case, not involve knowing past memories from previously lived lives assuming that reincarnation actually occurs?
Well, literally speaking, the past directly affects the future. However, knowing the past does not allow you to foretell future events otherwise this would be commonplace.
Please give me a concrete example of one of these "other elements", by the way. To be clear, I'm asking you to give me something physical; After all, the term is coined physics.
On a side note, nothing you say is clear.


How does the past directly affect the future? Be specific. I never once implied that knowing the past allowed you to tell the future.

An example of "other elements" in what context? What are you even asking?

When I mix black with white, what happens to the color? Is the black paint I put on the paper still black? Or is it gray? Are some parts of it black and white, while some are only black and some are only white?

How could space exist so plainly with nothing outside of physics influencing it?
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Dec 6 2013 04:55am
Quote (Vocaloid @ 6 Dec 2013 04:53)
so you think life sucks because we can not fly?


how can you stand thinking so linear, you're like a neanderthal. holy shit check out mr personality. was I l just talking about humans flying? was I?
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so you think life sucks because we can not fly?


lets discuss the supernatural for a moment.

if something interacts with the natural would then it is capable of being observed by science.

if one believe the the supernatural interacts with the natural world, for examples "God" performing miracles or spirits crossing over between worlds then one would be acknowledging that this believe is capable of being tested by science.

once the supernatural world interacts with the natural world it is officially part of the natural world and therefor can be observed by science.

taking this view one must realize that science is capable of proving or disproving ones beliefs.

at this moment there is no evidence that the natural world interacts with anything supernatural, however there is a possibility that there is some form of interaction within one or more of the dimensions that exists in the multiverse theory, if you believe in the multiverse.

if one believes the supernatural world can not be observed by science, then that person would be acknowledging that natural and supernatural worlds do not, and can not interact with each other.. and this would make the existence of anything super natural irrelevant


can a vending machine in china accept US dollars? why are you assuming that the natural world can measure the "supernatural" without fully understanding it?

are you meaning to tell me if I got together the greatest scientists of all time they could come to the conclusion that world exists the way it is, this is how, blah blah blah, and they would simply say life exists as it does in the physical world and there's nothing more to it?
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Dec 6 2013 05:00am
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can a vending machine in china accept US dollars? why are you assuming that the natural world can measure the "supernatural" without fully understanding it?

are you meaning to tell me if I got together the greatest scientists of all time they could come to the conclusion that world exists the way it is, this is how, blah blah blah, and they would simply say life exists as it does in the physical world and there's nothing more to it?


if something interacts with the natural world then it can be observed and therefor measured by science.
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Dec 6 2013 05:19am
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if something interacts with the natural world then it can be observed and therefor measured by science.


so you can explain all of existence, really?
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Dec 6 2013 05:23am
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so you can explain all of existence, really?


I never said that.. I said if something interacts with the natural world then it can be observed and therefor measured by science.

but just for fun lets assume I said yes, could you disprove me?



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Dec 6 2013 05:30am
Quote (Malidry @ Dec 6 2013 04:54am)
How does the past directly affect the future? Be specific. I never once implied that knowing the past allowed you to tell the future.

An example of "other elements" in what context? What are you even asking?

When I mix black with white, what happens to the color? Is the black paint I put on the paper still black? Or is it gray? Are some parts of it black and white, while some are only black and some are only white?

How could space exist so plainly with nothing outside of physics influencing it?


Given the fact that the past progresses into the future the events that have already happened are affecting what is now and what is going to happen.
Also, I quote, "Explain to me how intuition exists without involving knowing past memories from other lives". Or perhaps, this one will help? "To be clear I'm asking how intuition such as knowing the future".
Following the logic of your post, knowing the past involves knowing the future.
Do you even think when you type? I'm done with your closed mindedness. You point the finger exclaiming everyone is "thinking linearly" and being in general unenlightened when you post nonsense and expect us not to cooperate when your logic, if you could call it that, is ridiculous. I do not need to give you a context in which to expect an example of these "other elements". The context has already been stated by you and if you cannot figure out the direction your own conversation that you sparked is going why even post? Are we all in a downward spiral called being trolled right now? Are our lives impure? Dear god and heaven, I think I might just fly!
Good day to you, druggy. Drop acid not bombs. Fight the man.
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Dec 6 2013 05:40am
Quote (Vocaloid @ 6 Dec 2013 05:23)
I never said that.. I said if something interacts with the natural world then it can be observed and therefor measured by science.

but just for fun lets assume I said yes, could you disprove me?


You're asking for proof by a natural means to observe any outside forces that interact with the physical world

Now you ask me to prove to you that you DON'T know everything?

Are you really implying that you know literally everything?

You're both stupid and arrogant.
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