I mean in the way that they were wrapped into one continuous story
I think drawing out them getting together allowed them to make a timeline that could incorporate all of the other characters stories as well.
Kinda pulling bits from each, that wouldn't have happened if they were together so quickly

I agree though, was amazingly writen. I do agree that Ryou's story is sad, but what made me the most sad is that she tried to change herself to be more like Kyou. They could have easily included Kappei in After Story when they all meet up again. Could have come with Ryou or something along those lines.

I know what you meant But during Kotomi's arc, all the friends get brought together in the Drama club. Not sure if Kotomi makes an appearance for that in Nagisa's arc or not, as i fell down Fuko's arc before i reached that part of Nagisa's xD But i feel as though that's Kotomi specific as it was making friends for Kotomi.

I agree that it wouldn't have been as good of flowing if they all just got dragged in right away, but i don't mean that they would be dragged in right away I like how they slowly brought everyone together

I don't think in the anime that Ryou had met Kappei at that point yet. If i remember right, they didn't meet until Ryou started working at the hospital, which at their reuinion she was still in school to become a nurse.

Kappei could have been added in fairly easily though.. I wish he had been :/ Ryou is the only true lonely person in the entire story... Even when it comes to Kappei, she's still lonely in the fact that he would rather die than loose his leg, and live on with Ryou. She had to force him to live on with Tomoya's help.. I seriously want to know why they left Ryou(who is my second favorite character after Kotomi) out of all the fun...

I've been playing it for years cause long ass breaks in between each time i play xD
been on kotomi's arc for at least 2-3 years now

I could have sworn that they mentioned something about she had met someone. Or maybe I'm just going crazy. In all honesty Ryou was towards the bottom of my favorites. Kyou was easily my favorite, but after Nagisa in After Story I realized how much she had grown on me, and she took my second favorite. I liked Tomoya a lot as well, I really liked his over all development and personality. Will admit though he lost points in my book with having Ushio live with Senae and Akio because he was being a baby

I can understand that. the arcs are extremely long xD Lol. like 15 hours for the happy endings if you do them right. lol.



Nah, rewatched the scene last night to make sure. it wasn't until Kyou met Tomoya as the Kindergarten class that he learned Ryou is seeing someone from work. Unless i missed that part. oh well xD lol. That as the only mention of Kappei either way.

Kotomi will always be my favorite And i will always despise Nagisa for taking the main role in Tomoya's life. lmfao. I loved Nagisa, but i also hated her for stealing Tomoya from Kotomi childhood friends should always win. lol.

And yeah: I lost all respect for Tomoya when he made Sanae and Akio take care of Ushio while he left himself give up and fall apart.

This post was edited by Selet on Sep 17 2013 05:29am

I must just be crazy and thought that mention was during all of their reunion, not just with Kyou

Haha I liked Kotomi a lot too She was just so cute. Honestly I didn't like Nagisa at first, I didn't even realize she grew on me until After Story

I wouldn't say I lost all respect, because I can relate to him on why he was acting the way he did. I understand where he's at, and I respect that he made his best efforts to fix everything once he was pulled out of his state. I can relate to Tomoya a lot in general, and I'd like to say that if I were put in the same situation that I would have the strength to move forward and raise her right but I can't say with 100% confidence that I would. I feel like unless I was put in the situation myself, I am unable to judge him for how he reacted. However I can say with 100% confidence that it would not have taken me 5 years to pull my shit together.

It may have then, i wasn't paying all that much attention to what they were saying. though i'm pretty sure it was after the five year time skip.

I liked Nagisa through the entire show, until Kotomi's and Tomoya's past came around and he didn't chose her. I just hated that part of the story. Especially since it was obvious he loved her even then, but he never got with her in the anime. Just made me disappointed in that xD Lol.

Obviously it's hard to judge someone from experiences you haven't been through, But his father went through the same thing. At least he tried to raise Tomoya, though he started failing after a few years due to depression. That's the reason i lost respect for Tomoya. He always complained about how his father never treated him as his son, yet when he was in the same position as him, he took that one step further and had nothing to do with his daughter for 5 whole years... He knew the resentment he had for his own father for failing at his attempt to be a father, but then he turned around and refused to even be a father for the longest time..

I think you are right, pretty sure I was confusing the 2 conversations

That's true, I did feel bad for Kotomi but I wanted to see him with Kyou more than anyone so the disappointment for me was when her and Ryou broke down during the tennis game

I agree and disagree. How he never made the connection that he was acting worse than his own father had is beyond me, but I believe his thought process was more along the lines that he thought of himself as useless, and nothing but a burden. He blamed himself for Nagisa and I don't think he thought himself fit to raise Ushio, and allowed Senae and Akio to take her because he wanted her to have a loving home and to be with people that deserved to be around her.
I will never say that was a correct decision, but I get where he's coming from. There was a time in my life that I felt the same way he did about himself, so I understand the thought process. But at the same time I can never support basically abandoning your child. What restored some of my respect for him was when he realized everything and immediately without a second thought or hesitation went to Ushio and ASKED her if he could stay with her and fix things. He had the decency to realize he screwed up and took her feelings into account instead of just taking her back from Senae and Akio.
I think the way he handled it to begin with was horrible, but I do think that the way he went about trying to fix it all was really good. Obviously would have been better if the situation had never arose in the first place though.

Maybe, dunno. Haha. Doesn't matter much though, Kappei still wasn't introduced. lol.

Fuko disappearing and the tennis match were probably the only real parts that made you feel sad in the original story. Although, Tomoyo's lack of care looking like she was watching a bird while Kyou and Ryou cried in front of her kind of ruined the scene. Even Sunohara felt bad for them at that scene. lol.

Honestly, he never got past considering himself useless. Nagisa had tried for years(since Ushio was born 2 or 3 years after they graduated) to convince him otherise. It never worked out though.

I can understand how he felt. especially with how he felt watching Nagisa die without being able to do anything. The episode before he was taking to Sanae about how useless he was, and how if he never talked to her at the foot of the hill, she would never be going through this right then. So i'm sure that conversation came to mind right away as well.

I also like how he tried to fix everything in his own way. Even how he said he finally found his reason for living on in Ushio to Nagisa, and begging her to save Ushio. He never begge anyone to save Nagisa(though i think he may have been in too much of shock at that point to have either way) But that just shows how much he cared for Ushio with such little time spent with her. he turned his entire life around in those couple of weeks that he spent with Ushio.

I feel like turning his life around and then taking Ushio away was the biggest dick head move Key could have done with this anime. Though it played well into the story, and i loved that scene, even though it made me ball my eyes out. For the record, i consider the final episode as if it didn't exist after Ushio's death. I like the feeling the story gives with Ushio dying and Tomoya's heart giving out from the pain. (Idk if he actually died in the last scene, but i like to think that he had. It makes the story wrap better for me. Feel free to have your own opinion on it It was never said what actually happened, but i say he died because he ended up in the Hidden World with Ushio.)

I think I'm actually one of the few that didn't like Fuko that much her interactions with Tomoya were hilarious though

I totaly agree with you on them taking Ushio. The two of them making up was one of the most touching parts to me, and then when Ushio got sick I almost yelled at my screen. I was like "No.. the wouldn't take them both..... that would just be too sad...... this has to just be to scare us" Man was I wrong I agree, it gave it that emotional power but still Was even harder if you watch the English dub because Nagisa and Ushio are voiced by the same actress, making Ushio even more of a mini-Nagisa.
The last episode just made me rage, "YOU PUT ME THROUGH ALL OF THOSE FEELS AND NOW THIS!!?!?!" I mean it was what really pulled "place where wishes come true" aspect into the story, and I feel like it was somewhat needed to incorporate the rest of the pieces that had been mentioned throughout the show but still