meh, vaizards aren't a typical group I don't think. The other ones were more like a formal army so the leader doesn't come out until the peons are dead, the vaizards are out for revenge so I think they could be released in any order.

seriously, the things you say to make yourself feel better are sometimes retarded.

This post was edited by Cyba on Dec 27 2009 01:31pm

lol, the vaizards are a group of exiles out for revenge, how is that in any way simmilar to aizen's hollow army which has a ranking system, and the squads of soul society.



My point being, when there is a pronounced leader like aizen or yamamoto of course htey are going to be the last into battle, but none of hte vaizards have any ranks and they don't seem to care who goes into battle first or last like the others.

If you can't see that then you have no reason to call anybody retarded considering it seems typical of shounen.

This post was edited by Thor123422 on Dec 27 2009 01:53pm

eh also shinji said there is no leader of the vizard there just a group of people with a common interest/ goal but if a leader had to be appointed then he would be it, but officaly there all equals is rank/ status

they're a group either way, they're associated with eachother.... you don't have to fill out an official document to be considered part of a group... kariya jin's group of bounto's don't have ranking system or anything, but kariya revealed his powers last because he's the leader of their exiled group.....also the quincy's don't have a ranking system, but we have yet to see the full extent of ishida's father's powers (considering there's only 2 of them left)...it's just typical shit in anime and in movies.. the strongest/leader of the group never reveals his powers this early on and are usually one of the last ones to do so when it's their time

This post was edited by Cyba on Dec 27 2009 03:11pm

Kariya was very pronounced as the strongest/leader/biggest badass of the bounts. It was made clear from the start that he was the main enemy so its basically the same situation as the others. While it may not have been formal like soul society or Aizen's army, the bounts did have a kind of ranking. It was fairly easy to tell which ones were stronger or higher up. Kouga was obviously second in command with Kariya as the leader. The vaizards don't have a real ranking system besides a loose consensus that Shinji is the leader. As for the quincy, thats pretty irrelevent considering theres 2 and Uryuu is one of the main characters.

This post was edited by Thor123422 on Dec 27 2009 06:35pm

how far are you going to go with this lol... it's only "obvious" which ones are stronger because you're in hindsight and have already seen all of them perform.....they did kind of have a ranking eh? are you telling me the vizard's ex-position of captains and vice captains aren't "kind of" a ranking?

Kariya was the acknowledged leader and they all knew nad respected that. Kouga was obviously the second in command since he was always right next to Kariya. Kariya being represented as the leader and main enemy as well as the one with the plan was the one who brought the bounts together, this isn't the case for the vaizards. Their is no central plan, simply a common goal of revenge against aizen.

The ranks of captain and vice captain only represent strength in the case of vaizards. They never show any kind of acknowledgement to their former rankings of captain and vice captain as a current ranking system. The vaizards remain without any kind of ranks among themselves besides the loose acknowledgement htat shinji is the leader, which does not fit the same scheme as soul society, bounts, or aizen's army in which there is a very prounounced leader who is constantly portrayed as the strongest.



I will continue to +1 until you acknowledge this very simple concept.

This post was edited by Thor123422 on Dec 27 2009 11:15pm

idiat hirako

I just noticed, but luffy from one piece looks kinda like hiraiko lol