wait wha-

in the great gatsby the first 3 espada werent vasto lords...i think this is what cyba was referring to

The top three were not Vasto Lordes. If they were, then Kubo really fucked up.

dictionary.com up disillusionment.....

the watchers and aizen overestimated the powers of the vasto lordes and it turns out they're not that great

Exactly. I don't think that they would believe he had vasto even if Aizen came out and said "You killed my vasto lorde"

You're speculating, just like us. It isn't confirmed, either way. Perhaps you're the one who is delusional.

It's fairly obvious that aizen doesn't have more espada. He is joining the fight HIMSELF now. The king doesn't fight when he has more pawns.

This post was edited by Thor123422 on Oct 4 2009 02:33pm

We can't be 100% sure, Thor

Okay, now you are just being stupid and denying what is sitting in front of you.

This post was edited by Thor123422 on Oct 4 2009 02:34pm

I take it you're not big on philosophy. I'm hardly stupid; I think you know that.

If something is 100% apparent, then one can conclude a definite assumption. The opposite holds true for something less than 100%, which is true in this case.

We cannot be sure, one way or the other -- period.

This post was edited by Epion on Oct 4 2009 02:44pm