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Jan 17 2010 05:20pm
Quote (MidnightRider @ 17 Jan 2010 15:11)
You've been watching way too many shitty run-on animes I think.
An anime can end creatively and without the death of the main character just fine if it's done correctly, which is rare.

Light has to die because otherwise practically all the commentary on his tragic flaw and subsequent actions as a result of that flaw would be lost.

no ur just too much into light; shit happens all the time. especailly like the last episode where they made exact copy, thats no flaw, its just how things can go
run on animes doesn't make it shitty it just lacks new fresh ideas that's why there is so much new ones
most anime end with a death is for dramatis purposes or tragic views, if the theme is to not evoke any of these im sure you are right, there can be creative ending without death of main
however, and ending with death like fables and tragic fairy tales just seem much better of an attraction then a happy ending nowadays.

This post was edited by ethan_u on Jan 17 2010 05:24pm
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Jan 17 2010 05:54pm
sora no otoshimo

just watched

what a fucked up show, reminds me of tonagura!, just with more lols and super powers
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Jan 17 2010 06:05pm
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there is only win or lose; and they made it clear who won
and like i said if things are to get creative series would have to go on.


or they coulda cut the whole garbage ass section out and replaced it with something good from here on your opinion on this matter is invalid and myopinion reigns supreme
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Jan 17 2010 06:08pm
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or they coulda cut the whole garbage ass section out and replaced it with something good from here on your opinion on this matter is invalid and myopinion reigns supreme


in ur opnion; from what i understand u want to see a show that is not in context of death note and throw out what is death note's shitty section. On this matter i think my comment more valid.

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Jan 17 2010 06:11pm
Quote (ethan_u @ Jan 17 2010 06:20pm)
no ur just too much into light; shit happens all the time. especailly like the last episode where they made exact copy, thats no flaw, its just how things can go
run on animes doesn't make it shitty it just lacks new fresh ideas that's why there is so much new ones
most anime end with a death is for dramatis purposes or tragic views, if the theme is to not evoke any of these im sure you are right, there can be creative ending without death of main
however, and ending with death like fables and tragic fairy tales just seem much better of an attraction then a happy ending nowadays.


I'm having trouble deciphering what you wrote.
How am I too much into Light? I just said he had to die?
When I say tragedy, I don't mean boo-hoo tragedy, I mean literary tragedy, with a tragic hero, and a tragic flaw. Light is the tragic hero of Death Note.

Also, I'm going to go ahead and say that most run on aimes are shitty. Long animes can be good, but there's a difference between a long anime and a run-on anime.
As an anime runs on unnecessarily, the potency is lost..character development halts, character relationships lose meaning, etc. etc.
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Jan 17 2010 06:24pm
Quote (MidnightRider @ 17 Jan 2010 16:11)
I'm having trouble deciphering what you wrote.
How am I too much into Light?  I just said he had to die?
When I say tragedy, I don't mean boo-hoo tragedy, I mean literary tragedy, with a tragic hero, and a tragic flaw.  Light is the tragic hero of Death Note.
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sure he is it has a terrible fuckin ending

yea look few pages back and explain to them, but i don't agree with that there is a tragic flaw anywhere.

Also, I'm going to go ahead and say that most run on aimes are shitty. Long animes can be good, but there's a difference between a long anime and a run-on anime.
As an anime runs on unnecessarily, the potency is lost..character development halts, character relationships lose meaning, etc. etc.

run-on = same as long; lose purpose, thats why most of us turn to others.
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Jan 17 2010 07:11pm
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run-on = same as long; lose purpose, thats why most of us turn to others.


Guess I'll respond to the bold..I really have no idea what those quotes were indicating, lol

I"m not saying that Death Note has a tragic flaw - I'm saying that Light is a tragic hero and thus possesses a tragic flaw in his character that inevitably leads to his downfall, hence the necessity for his death.
Light's tragic flaw is his idealist perception of morality that contradictorily does not include himself in the equation. Thus, Light's definition of justice is twisted, even though his intentions are justifiable as "good"
Light's decline and his death at the end of the series emphasize this flaw and validate all the commentary made throughout the series.

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Jan 17 2010 07:30pm
Light's tragic flaw is his idealist perception of morality that contradictorily does not include himself in the equation. Thus, Light's definition of justice is twisted, even though his intentions are justifiable as "good"
Light's decline and his death at the end of the series emphasize this flaw and validate all the commentary made throughout the series.

iC where you are going with this tragic flaw
but thats just his personal preference or whether justice is twisted or not; in your view it may seem like a flaw as he died; but, from what i see its not a flaw throughout the anime, its part of his forte to not realize that "flaw" as you call it.
that why he denied just to the very end. which really proves his point that he is right. (from what i see)
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Jan 17 2010 08:06pm
Quote (ethan_u @ Jan 17 2010 08:30pm)
Light's tragic flaw is his idealist perception of morality that contradictorily does not include himself in the equation. Thus, Light's definition of justice is twisted, even though his intentions are justifiable as "good"
Light's decline and his death at the end of the series emphasize this flaw and validate all the commentary made throughout the series.

iC where you are going with this tragic flaw
but thats just his personal preference or whether justice is twisted or not; in your view it may seem like a flaw as he died; but, from what i see its not a flaw throughout the anime, its part of his forte to not realize that "flaw" as you call it.
that why he denied just to the very end. which really proves his point that he is right. (from what i see)


If you think that Light was morally in the right then your interpretation of the series was completely different than mine, and I might add, highly unconventional.

Again, I'm not saying that Light's tragic flaw makes his character "flawed" in regards to merit. Actually, the fact that Light has a tragic flaw is what makes him a complex character.

Lol, well that's enough warm up in the anime section.
Time to go write my English essay ^_^

This post was edited by MidnightRider on Jan 17 2010 08:07pm
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Jan 18 2010 12:28pm
Looking for good romance anime with english dub, possibly can be found on animefreak or animecrazy
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