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Feb 18 2016 04:41pm
Quote (Tianjin @ Feb 18 2016 01:46pm)
last beta before a paid release shouldn't be gated to the extent BDO betas were.
I was just lucky I got a key, it was like a 2h window to get one off dankey shit.
it's not like they're going to change very much at this point either, considering release schedule's already set in stone for the 3rd (and 3d prior for paid headstart)

not being able to chat at all isn't pretty minor imo
i had to restart the game 3 times until the chat box finally popped up, totally nonexistant
and then world chat was overlaid overtop of regular chat despite nixing box2 and turning all non-party chat off, so I had to restart a 4th time.
when I leveled up, worldchat appeared again despite being turned off so the chat was a massive garbled mess, restart 5th time, no chat window
restart 2 more times to get it back

the lighting is weird af
dark & little contrast when you're behind your character
and then your maximum bloom hair lights up the world like a lantern if you play top-down

http://puu.sh/nczEH/a4ad6bcaee.jpg
http://puu.sh/nczFo/09b460f405.jpg

and it shifted constantly while I was running around
like if you were in a forest w foliage overhead or sth, YEAH MAYBE justified, but open world + idk, it just made me dizzy

20s gathering timer why
kill 4 wolves with a fireball
gather 2, corpse poofs partway thru 3rd
gr8

>everything requiring energy, 1 energy per 3 minutes, .5 energy req'd to gather one item once.
trying to level gathering sure is suffering
it's not even p2p so why the artificial time wasting bullshit

I mean its beta, so bugs or w/e but that's like.. intentional design
cash shop's buggy but that's forgivable for now.
spend the free daum coins, "request failed", but it still takes them away and doesnt give me pearls in return

witch skills at least are a little.. disingenuous idk.
like shift asd teleport/dodges you but shift + lmb/rmb are atk skills.. so you have to come to complete halt before attempting to cast shit or you'll burn stamina and blink somewhere else instead
for any like, arpg/action mmo it's weird to me that you'd put movement + non movement on the same base modifier (shift), though at least you can interrupt casts with dodge

i liked the witch skills, apart from the class feeling fumbly as fuck, the skills were cool, and maybe it's just a matter of time to get used to that bullshit
but the overall impression i've got is that it's a typical kr pile of shit with gfx over function, and they don't even do that well.

So much of the ingame shit is just unexplained and having to google guides from ppl who played KR isn't good design.
Nodes don't seem to work, or at least I couldn't figure it out. There's some random npc favor/rank me up to fuck me in the back shed dating system. Stamina, strength, some other stat thing you literally level by afking autopathed in a circle.
A lot of the ingame shit hinges on connecting nodes to things which is gated by npc favor + energy + ???

Just lots of tiny little things I really find obnoxious and poor design. Like trade being ingame despite items you can sell on the marketplace being utterly untradable person to person. Even the process to trade someone is obnoxious, you gotta shift into mouse mode, try'n hump their character because the goddamn context menu doesn't appear otherwise, and then click trade instead of something simple like rclicking party menu.

Horses would be cool if the bloody npcs would sell me lasoos. Stable dude doesnt. General npc didn't.
There's obv a lot of detailed work put into it but there's like jack shit ingame explaining it.

even the horrid quest ui pisses me off. It's like b&s where it shifts you into a new screen entirely like you're reading some VN where the only options are to spam R until the faggot in front of you quits spamming his same 4 lines that have nothing to do with the quest text at hand. and then spam R some more because the default is to repeat the dialogue.

so if you wanna play my acct joe thats fine, i'm done with it.

rate it out of 10 then i put bns at like a 5/6 maby so ya
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Feb 18 2016 08:26pm
Yeah, there's a definite lack of explained shit in the game, it's something they've mentioned on the forums before and want to address.
i felt the same way when playing CBT1, felt lost and confused at how things worked and that certain things even existed.
but then again that's good in some ways to since it allows you to discover things, instead of having a generic tutorial shoved down your throat like 100% of game these days.
like all the people that hate on tutorials these days but then when there's lack of a tutorial they complain that there isn't one. (seen it many times during streams and letsplays, make up your damn mind people)


Energy does seem like it could get in the way but i think i remember hearing there's way/s to get energy back other than waiting it out.

Quote (hurt_knee @ Feb 18 2016 04:41pm)
rate it out of 10 then i put bns at like a 5/6 maby so ya


if you ranked BnS a 5.5, BDO is probably closer to a 7

does have more content overall, more of a standard grind oppose to quest based progression of BnS, and that basic gear based PvP you mentioned you like better


This post was edited by Dragonox on Feb 18 2016 08:34pm
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Feb 18 2016 08:48pm
Quote (Dragonox @ 19 Feb 2016 11:26)
Yeah, there's a definite lack of explained shit in the game, it's something they've mentioned on the forums before and want to address.
i felt the same way when playing CBT1, felt lost and confused at how things worked and that certain things even existed.
but then again that's good in some ways to since it allows you to discover things, instead of having a generic tutorial shoved down your throat like 100% of game these days.
like all the people that hate on tutorials these days but then when there's lack of a tutorial they complain that there isn't one. (seen it many times during streams and letsplays, make up your damn mind people)


Energy does seem like it could get in the way but i think i remember hearing there's way/s to get energy back other than waiting it out.



if you ranked BnS a 5.5, BDO is probably closer to a 7

does have more content overall, more of a standard grind oppose to quest based progression of BnS, and that basic gear based PvP you mentioned you like better

yeah, I like being able to discover stuff but.. not when it's centric game systems.
I'd prob put BDO around a 6, 6.5 with b&s around a 5. More or less the same as you I guess.
I mean it's not utterly terrible and some things it does okay, it just rubs me the wrong way on too many things. If it was f2p I'd probably play it on/off, but no way do I wanna buy it.
It might be worth playing 2-3 yrs down the road, maybe not. I liked the idea of the game, just not how it turned out I guess.
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Feb 18 2016 09:14pm
it'll prob go F2P within a year anyways.
so you likely wouldn't have to buy it after that time passes.



sadly any other games i'm looking forward to are far off sadly.
nothing seems to be coming out for the rest of the year MMO wise.





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Feb 18 2016 10:56pm
i havent really been keeping up w mmo releases.
lost ark? or something ark, kr d3 i vaguely recall being a thing.
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Feb 19 2016 01:58am
why do people play mmos
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Feb 19 2016 02:17am
Quote (Tianjin @ Feb 18 2016 10:56pm)
i havent really been keeping up w mmo releases.
lost ark? or something ark, kr d3 i vaguely recall being a thing.


yeah, but they mentioned that Localization isn't happening until they finally release the game in Korea and get it settled in.
so maybe see it mid/late 2017 at the earliest is my guess.

Basically a Diablo styled dungeon crawler but with open world MMO aspects.
the classes and skill system looks pretty cool.

Quote (Chuu @ Feb 19 2016 01:58am)
why do people play mmos


big time wasters.
the concept of playing a game with lots of other people.
cheap entertainment
etc...

This post was edited by Dragonox on Feb 19 2016 02:34am
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Feb 19 2016 02:52am
Quote (Dragonox @ Feb 19 2016 05:17pm)
yeah, but they mentioned that Localization isn't happening until they finally release the game in Korea and get it settled in.
so maybe see it mid/late 2017 at the earliest is my guess.

Basically a Diablo styled dungeon crawler but with open world MMO aspects.
the classes and skill system looks pretty cool.



big time wasters.
the concept of playing a game with lots of other people.
cheap entertainment
etc...


true, i just never got into them
seemed like not very good linear plot development etc.
but if its just for social time consumption i can see the purpose
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Feb 19 2016 11:14am
So do u have to play 24/7 to stay competitive in Bdo?

It looks both p2p and p2w? Game sure is pretty and I don't mind dumping money on it but if game turns out like shit then I don't see the point

So far in Korea BnS is ranked 9th most played game and bdo is like 16th?

How do ppl know this game is gonna be better?

Also if I buy the 100$ pack, do I keep everything when game goes on full release?

This post was edited by guiltygearXT on Feb 19 2016 11:34am
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Feb 19 2016 11:35am
Quote (guiltygearXT @ Feb 19 2016 11:14am)
So do u have to play 24/7 to stay competitive in Bdo?

It looks both p2p and p2w? Game sure is pretty and I don't mind dumping money on it but if game turns out like shit then I don't see the point

So far BnS is ranked 9th most played game and bdo is like 16th?

How do ppl know this game is gonna be better?

Also if I buy the 100$ pack, do I keep everything when game goes on full release?


i didint know Chinese people were novice mmo enthusiasts
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