id seriously doubt it even a perfect fusion shouldnt touch ssj god let alone blue or ultra intinct lol

This post was edited by kalelvszod on Nov 9 2017 12:53am

You have to take in account that the saiyans of universe 6 are still alive so they have had more growth to develop if you understand what I am saying.

And if you notice and have watched some videos in all dragonball, dbz saiyans have many gifts and one is learning things at an extremely fast rate such as goku learning kamahamaha wave that took master roshi yearsss to perfect. As too the saiyan being around that level of power being taught sensing it they can achieve it a lot quicker than goku vegeta or even gohan did because of how saiyans are

i agree with you, however all the z fighter saiyans have seen people and sensed far greater power than there own, they didnt immediately jump in power they had to train for it once they realized it was possible.goku needed a ritual of 5 saiyans to reach his first god form these 2 are gonna do it in 5 minits

Nah I think this is pretty much their limit tbh

i hope so. goku and vegeta to me imo should only have a challenge vs a g.o.d.even there super saiyan and base forms should be exponentially higher than the others. for me to be able to enjoy the show i pretty much have to "empty my cup" as some would say.

Unless the universe 6 saiyans have evolved differently somehow

ye they are pulling so much shit out of there ass these days who knows. peaceful saiyan race growing up to rival a battle hardened race. thats what kills me.

I mean they did evolve differently for one they have a whole race still

And yeah I watch dbs as a fan and am very open minded I mean goku will win in the end xD

Agree the universe 6 saiyans never as as much motivation

Yeah but you could also say that universe 6 saiyans being peace keepers in a sense have control over their emotions better than goku and vegeta so achieving ssj is easier for them because those forms are emotion driven