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Aug 29 2009 05:33pm
Quote (Cyba @ Sat, Aug 29 2009, 04:26pm)
there's no arrow pointing to the gun, therefore it's not lilynet saying it.... that's all there is to it.....if this is the first time you see someone talking to themselves in anime, then i don't know what more to say.

p.s. you still didn't answer how he's being schizophrenic.


if you're saying he's having a conversation with himself he is.

He uses nothing like "but, however, etc" to segway from saying he's terrible to not caring. It's two different tone of voices, and if he's talking with himself, he would need to say something like but, however, on the other hand, except etc for it to make sense.

The way it's translated he's having a conversation with someone else. The only other thing on the page within earshot is his talking gun.

They point the bubbles to the faces...a gun doesn't have a face. Why in the second frame is the bubble on the right purposely angled down away from his face while the one on the left is drastically angled up to his face? There's plenty of room to angle it up to his face on the right.


I've never seen you admit you're wrong before, there's no reason to press this further since you'll just keep saying you're right even if the Anime has lillynet saying it. Then it'll probably be something about the Anime getting it wrong too.
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Aug 29 2009 05:42pm
here it is!

Cyba's Ultimate Proof to Grimmjow Being a Vasto Lorde:



As you all know, resurrection is where a hollow revert back to their former selves to gain more power by releasing their sword....ALL of grimmjow's fraccions look almost identical to their hollow form before becoming arrancars and after resurrection...the only exception is shawlong lost a part of his mask, which i believe is because him and d-roy have had their parts eaten by other adjuchas before so his transformation isn't as powerful (if you read in the manga, he states he cannot progress because he's had parts of him eaten by hollows of the same class before)...either that or his left side of his mask was eaten by grimmjow for grimmjow to progress (read lower for more explanation) which is more i'm more leaned towards....and as i stated in the picture, grimmjow's adjuchas and grimmjow's release are farrrrrr different from one another



and here we can implicitly imply that he ate parts of them to progress and advance beyond adjuchas and enter vasto lorde

and the latest manga chapter that confirmed my beliefs:



first picture is of barragan when he released to soi fon.... 2nd picture is before he became an arrancar.... see how they look alike in almost every aspect? grimmjow looks nothing like his adjuchas form in his released form which confirms that he is no longer an adjuchas...especially considering his human-like characteristics after resurrection

i dare someone to come up with a better argument backed with plenty of proof for him not being a vasto lorde
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Aug 29 2009 05:46pm
Quote (Instigator @ Sat, Aug 29 2009, 06:33pm)
if you're saying he's having a conversation with himself he is.

He uses nothing like "but, however, etc" to segway from saying he's terrible to not caring.  It's two different tone of voices, and if he's talking with himself, he would need to say something like but, however, on the other hand, except etc for it to make sense.

The way it's translated he's having a conversation with someone else.  The only other thing on the page within earshot is his talking gun.

They point the bubbles to the faces...a gun doesn't have a face.  Why in the second frame is the bubble on the right purposely angled down away from his face while the one on the left is drastically angled up to his face?  There's plenty of room to angle it up to his face on the right.


I've never seen you admit you're wrong before, there's no reason to press this further since you'll just keep saying you're right even if the Anime has lillynet saying it. Then it'll probably be something about the Anime getting it wrong too.


you don't need "but,however, etc" to connect the two... do you see the period after he said "that's horrible?"... that means he's going to start on another sentence....i think he's talking to himself when he says the stuff about #2's death... then when he says ".....we're not the type to avenge each other" i believe he was talking to love and rose
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Aug 29 2009 05:54pm
Quote (Cyba @ Sat, Aug 29 2009, 04:46pm)
you don't need "but,however, etc" to connect the two... do  you see the period after he said "that's horrible?"... that means he's going to start on another sentence....i think he's talking to himself when he says the stuff about #2's death... then when he says ".....we're not the type to avenge each other" i believe he was talking to love and rose


The whole "monologue" is obviously being spoken out loud since there are no little thought bubbles.

By saying "that's terrible, you can't even say one word" that is showing remorse and saying a word about his death. Since whoever said that obviously feels it's wrong that someone doesn't feel bad.

You lmk how he can say that to himself without being 100% contradictory in his statements.
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Aug 29 2009 06:03pm
Quote (Instigator @ Sat, Aug 29 2009, 06:54pm)
The whole "monologue" is obviously being spoken out loud since there are no little thought bubbles.

By saying "that's terrible, you can't even say one word" that is showing remorse and saying a word about his death.  Since whoever said that obviously feels it's wrong that someone doesn't feel bad.

You lmk how he can say that to himself without being 100% contradictory in his statements.


i didn't want to call you out on this before, but since you keep using it again and again.l.....you need to know what contradiction is.... he's not contradicting anything.....avenging each other and saying a word for someone's death like "i'm sorry barragan" do not contradict eachother...he's saying he's not going to avenge barragan as in run over there and try and kill hacchi to avenge #2, but he still expects aizen to pay some sort of sorrow for the loss



the picture has a picture of love and rose in the middle..... i'm guessing the two were about to battle him or something because by looking at their stance (especially love's, he's about to go after stark.....and he just says "....... (those dots mean he saw what they think he's going to do, and he tries to reassure them by saying) we're not the type to avenge eachother"

This post was edited by Cyba on Aug 29 2009 06:03pm
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Quote (Cyba @ Sat, Aug 29 2009, 06:42pm)
here it is!

Cyba's Ultimate Proof to Grimmjow Being a Vasto Lorde:[/U]

http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o240/Neji513/VastoLorde1.png

As you all know, resurrection is where a hollow revert back to their former selves to gain more power by releasing their sword....ALL of grimmjow's fraccions look almost identical to their hollow form before becoming arrancars and after resurrection...the only exception is shawlong lost a part of his mask, which i believe is because him and d-roy have had their parts eaten by other adjuchas before so his transformation isn't as powerful (if you read in the manga, he states he cannot progress because he's had parts of him eaten by hollows of the same class before)...either that or his left side of his mask was eaten by grimmjow for grimmjow to progress (read lower for more explanation) which is more i'm more leaned towards....and as i stated in the picture, grimmjow's adjuchas and grimmjow's release are[U]farrrrrr
different from one another

http://media.onemanga.com/mangas/00000003/000176322/09.jpg

and here we can implicitly imply that he ate parts of them to progress and advance beyond adjuchas and enter vasto lorde

and the latest manga chapter that confirmed my beliefs:

http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o240/Neji513/VastoLorde2.png

first picture is of barragan when he released to soi fon.... 2nd picture is before he became an arrancar.... see how they look alike in almost every aspect? grimmjow looks nothing like his adjuchas form in his released form which confirms that he is no longer an adjuchas...especially considering his human-like characteristics after resurrection

i dare someone to come up with a better argument backed with plenty of proof for him not being a vasto lorde


Wish we could see zommari and szayel apporo's pre-transformation forms. I don't think we can make a judgment on them unfortunately :(
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Aug 29 2009 07:39pm
Quote (Cyba @ Sat, Aug 29 2009, 05:03pm)
i didn't want to call you out on this before, but since you keep using it again and again.l.....you need to know what contradiction is.... he's not contradicting anything.....avenging each other and saying a word for someone's death like "i'm sorry barragan" do not contradict eachother...he's saying he's not going to avenge barragan as in run over there and try and kill hacchi to avenge #2, but he still expects aizen to pay some sort of sorrow for the loss

http://media.onemanga.com/mangas/00000003/000219792/19.jpg

the picture has a picture of love and rose in the middle..... i'm guessing the two were about to battle him or something because by looking at their stance (especially love's, he's about to go after stark.....and he just says "....... (those dots mean he saw what they think he's going to do, and he tries to reassure them by saying) we're not the type to avenge eachother"


so your argument is that Stark, the guy who's showed his intelligence and calm nature is mad at Aizen for not avenging Barrangan even though he doesn't care enough to do it as well?

alright, I give up, you must be right, he must be a gigantic hypocrite that talks to himself.

you win, gd
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Aug 29 2009 10:01pm
Quote (Instigator @ Sat, Aug 29 2009, 08:39pm)
so your argument is that Stark, the guy who's showed his intelligence and calm nature is mad at Aizen for not avenging Barrangan even though he doesn't care enough to do it as well?

alright, I give up, you must be right, he must be a gigantic hypocrite that talks to himself.

you win, gd


nowhere did i say he was angry... i just said he expected aizen to show at least some remorse........and stark is calm nature?......are you talking about the guy that went to resurrection way before he needed to and charged in and attacked kyoraku head on trying to force him to use his bankai... yep, that's really calm to me lawls.

This post was edited by Cyba on Aug 29 2009 10:08pm
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Quote (Cyba @ Sat, Aug 29 2009, 11:01pm)
nowhere did i say he was angry... i just said he expected aizen to show at least some remorse........and stark is calm nature?......are you talking about the guy that went to resurrection way before he needed to and charged in and attacked kyoraku head on trying to force him to use his bankai... yep, that's really calm to me lawls.


He only did that because the kid and superchunky (forgot anme) showed up and he thought aizen wanted him to hurry.



This post was edited by Thor123422 on Aug 29 2009 10:32pm
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Aug 29 2009 10:59pm
Quote (Thor123422 @ Sat, Aug 29 2009, 11:30pm)
He only did that because the kid and superchunky (forgot anme) showed up and he thought aizen wanted him to hurry.

http://media.onemanga.com/mangas/00000003/000196902/08.jpg


if you weren't retarded, you'd see he was already released in that same page you posted... he was fighting with ukitake and shunsui way before wonderweiss came out

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