heres the link http://naruto.watchfullepisodesonline.com/naruto_shippuuden_episode_85_the_terrifying_secret.html
17min and 50 sec into the episode: he said he fought and single handedly pwned the 1st hokage himself, if he said he fought im pretty sure it means he won and killed

and yes the title says it all its the terrying secret that he pwns more than madara

He just said he fought him, pretty sure he didn't kill him. Then again I could be wrong lol !

This post was edited by Day_z on Jul 10 2009 10:10pm

im pretty sure he took his heart he said he took the strongest shinobi's heart which at the time it was the first hokage and possibly kakuza

This post was edited by aznmike on Jul 10 2009 10:14pm

madara didnt exactly lose since he is actually still alive

this

Has this got to do with the tailed fox? (Look at the bottom-righthand panel)

no, its talking about emotions

yup... bonds!


ps: Its quite strange,,, how obito and danzou got same parts of the body damaged , he just might traded hes youth to partialy recover a part of hes body ,and since Orochimaru helped him... it might realy be true xD!Somehow Orochimaru saved him... and bla bla

dasf

This post was edited by aznmike on Jul 11 2009 09:16am

wow this makes sense... tsunade said herself that healing just speeds up cell division... lol... but i highly highly doubt this though... danzo was in the great ninja war long before obito and kakashi gaiden even started.... he was there when jiraiya and stuff were still young......