Enel had Mantra and a super-elite devil fruit, yes.

But what I feel makes him less of a threat than an admiral is his lack of physical fighting ability / prowess.

He's an average fighter placed in the role of an elite one.

Plus he can't take hits like a real fighter can, and if he loses his logia / mantra upper-hand then he panics and loses all concentration

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QoRJMMGsI50

Enel should be the biggest OP in OP

why? TELEPORT + Mantra = NO DMG!!!
He can deal some dmg with lightning or just using his tele skills -> Tele, hit, tele... anyone will be owned

you have to put in perspective what we thought were huge bounties at the time when oda stated that 500mil bounty.
i don't think oda thought that bounties were going to escalate this high, this quickly.
look at all the other bounties for the shichibukai.
some of the strongest pirates on the seas, and luffy has blown past them all.
I mean, almost all of the rookies had bounties that surpassed several of the shichibukai.
when oda gave that estimate, the highest we knew of was doflamingo at ~250mil (dont remember off the top of my head)
also, i believe that at the time he stated this, bounty WAS primarily used as a tool for how strong a character is

those bounties are just numbers which will show you powahs, its almost in all mangas. ammount of ki, levels of SSJ.

But its nonsense here in OP, coz there are many strong people, who didnt go against WG so they dont have bounties...

im luffy day one bounty 0

day 500 bounty 400+million

um ok so lets see if i do this for another 500days i should be king right?

This post was edited by trio0 on Aug 21 2011 04:29pm

That's not true. Oda already had the ending planned out from the very beginning. In an interview in 2009 he said that the ending had not changed since the beginning, he is just working his way towards it. Which means he knows the ending bounty of Luffy.

Oda is just really good at hiding the strength of top people. This is where a lot of mangakas fail. They always end up putting a meeting of the strongest antagonist against the protagonist too early. Where it takes like 3-5 more power-ups before they are even on the same level. (Oda has only done that once with Zoro and Mihawk). however, with Luffy, we always thought him as really strong. It wasn't until EL that we noticed he was weak, and then he gets a power-up that arc. And we go back to think that he is strong. And then he runs into the Admirals. Now we know he is weak compared to the World powerhouses and the manga starts a set up of a time-skip with huge power-ups. So you have it backwards. Oda had it planned; Really high bounties were only foreign to us.

Also Doflamingo's bounty was 340,000,000. (I think. I know its >300,000,000)



That's because your initial analysis is wrong. Bounties aren't numbers to show you strength. It doesn't work out like that. It is just the threat they have against the WG. Which is why Dragon's bounty is higher than WB. WB was the strongest person in the world, yet Dragon has the higher bounty.

This post was edited by kasey21 on Aug 21 2011 05:32pm

haha ill tell u an easy way to remember "desert"(sand land lol)

it has one "s" since you dont want more than 1 desert.

Dessert(ice cream!) on the other hand, u want more than one, therefore 2x "s"

lol..thats so untrue.

an admiral like akainu will destory him.

mind you, they all mastered haki. (not sure about aokiji) they can detect enels movements too..

+ not sure if enel has busoshoko haki.

dam..i seriously dont get y every1 is overrating enel.

y is it that his ability alone is elite of an elite, when there are other logias just as destructive as his.

shanks,marco,hawkeye,akainu,sengoku are just some of the ones im thinking off the top of my head that wouldnt have TOO much trouble against enel.

Akainu for example, has mastered haki as well. The only haki enel knows is Kenbunshoku Haki, also known as Mantra in Skypiea(which allows you to read movements b4 they occur).

He wouldnt be able to hurt akainu, but akainu would be able to demolish him.

All of those who are saying stuff abuot enels bounty, Boutny doesnt always = fighting ability. its just how much threat they are to the world government as well.

For example, Blackbeard has a bounty of 0 lol..but we all know how strong he is, but the government didnt know him yet to label him. (im sure theres one on him now after all the incidents)

I dont really wanna take part in this discussion other than saying that Enels devils fruit is indeed one of the best that one could have(atleast ideally), i mean it clearly tops any those of known admirals had, just by attribute alone(thunder obvs. lightspeed etc!)

thats being said its also true that enels knowledge about "real world"(blue sea) is really poor and his overall fighting abilities were next to nothing..

in a "real battle" person with haki of observation like his could probably easily without any real real effort throw a kairoseki net over him( ) and basically beat the crap out of him

what im trying to say here is that altho i admit that by the time Luffy met him he could of been considered "strong" but as its now.. basically anyone from new world could probably beat him