Quote (joelmules @ Mon, Sep 28 2009, 02:32pm)
not to mention, it even says that the stawhats were UTTERLY defeated on the archipelago. Also, vs chief Magellan, im 99% sure that Luffy was beaten to the point of losing
Strawhats* Not luffy.
but in any case my point was whenever luffy is on a team or whatever he always manages to find a way to survive and beat them at a later point usually if he doesn't during the initial fight.
even with magellan he used the candle wax gloves to knock him around a bit after he got healed.
its kind of like the retreating to live to fight another day thing..he doesn't loose E.G. Die he may get beaten to a pulp but always finds a way to get out of actually dying till he can kick their ass later.
with the exception of the fore mentioned fight..where the group had no way at all to escape and let luffy recover and roronoa had to take the punishment for him.