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Apr 28 2008 09:14pm
Quote (Cyba @ Tue, Apr 29 2008, 02:06am)
they have the same healing rate as normal people.

NO HE DONT U LIEZ
http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/365/07/

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it wasn't hanzo it was the kage of rain...


Yes.... Hanzo was the kage of the rain at the time...

Your thinking of Danzo the leader of Root in Konoha.

Im right go check if you want...

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it was decent. blood was drawn =)
and no more back and forth illusions ^^


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yes, they got to sannin because they're overall good ninja, they have good evasive maneuvers and offensive jutsus, but if they got hit, they still suffer the same damage any human being would take, they take the same recovery rate a normal would take. if you read the manga, you'd know orochimaru is able to take savage beatings from tsunade because he experiments on himself and is considered a monster because he's barely even human anymore, not because he's a sannin. sannin doesn't mean they can endure more than a normal shinobi, it just means that the kage of the rain village or w/e that village was granted them that title because they are the 3rd hokage's students...

exactly, what's to say obito wasn't transfered an arm or a body? orochimaru transfers bodys all the time (not to mention pein).....yes, they recovered one of deidara's arms, but how did he get two arms when fighting sasuke? if obito's vital organs were crushed, how would he still be able to have consciousness when he offered kakashi his eye.... he was still alive when they left him there because he told them to move on and leave him, so no one really knows what happened to him, he was just assumed mia

the only reason tsunade won't die in battle is because she heals herself up when she is fatally wounded so she is at full strength again while her opponent is probably weakened, which would make her have the upper hand.... i advise for you to watch tsunade vs orochimaru again.... she was still able to get damaged after releasing her seal.
all pein said was" jiraiya sama, i had no idea you were able to use such an incredible genjutsu" and that was because pein was attacked by a genjutsu that paralyzes your nerves and mind, which he didn't know jiraiya was able to use, which made him susceptible to it and astonished that he knows genjutsu.....please use more accurate quotes when in a debate.....


You're paying too much attention to the fact that they're Sannin. My point was they're on a completely different level than Obito, RETARD. And no, they're on a level where they can take way more physical punishment than most others. How many other shinobi do you think would survive a beating from Tsunade besides Jiraiya and Orochimaru(who are both at her level)? Obito? LOL. And how do you explain Jiraiya being able to move after being stabbed several times by Pain? I'm sure Obito would've been capable of that.

It took Orochimaru years to complete that jutsu. So far the manga hasn't show signs of anyone else knowing or even learning it. Who knows how Deidara got his second arm back, but body transfer is on a completely different level. And having some vital organs crushed doesn't exactly mean you'll die instantly, but it's obvious you won't live much longer than five minutes if the whole right side of your body is squashed.

Oh and good job contradicting yourself, dumbass. Why would someone of Pain's level describe the genjutsu as "incredible" if it wasn't? Where does he say Jiraiya is bad at genjutsu? And Tsunade's seal is aside from the point. She's obviously much stronger and you can't compare Obito's situation to her.

To further my point, If Madara needed a body, why the FUCK would he use Obito's when it's half crushed? For the Sharingan? No, he would need to transfer his MS. For the Uchiha blood? Doubt it, Kakashi does fine with a Sharingan(only held back by his small chakra capacity). So think about that for a couple minutes, idiot.

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we were discussing jiraiya being fatally wounded, so why would the other's matter? that kid thinks that just because they have a title sannin makes them god, i'm saying no, they're regular ppl with special abilities (jiraiya and his frogs, orochimaru and snakes, tsunade and snails)....they have the same healing rate as normal people etc including tsunade, but although she can heal herself, she still suffers the same damage any normal ppl would take if she didn't use her medical jutsus.


Again, I'm merely stating they're a much higher level and can't be compared to Obito. Also a kid that rage posts in bold size 23 letters shouldn't be calling other people "kids."
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Apr 29 2008 04:53am
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DaZe858 Tue, Apr 29 2008, 10:00am
Who knows how Deidara got his second arm back


I do smile.gif

Kakuzu stitched it back on using the black cables from his body - thats why he was partnered with Hidan.

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Kakashi does fine with a Sharingan(only held back by his small chakra capacity)


He also struggles because the Sharingan is unique to the Uchiha lineage, so its very taxing for him to use
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Apr 29 2008 06:08am
ISO MOAR ITACHI!
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Apr 29 2008 11:33am
corr the manga is well interesting atm damn fillers have taken over tho grr but yeah its weird how they make itachi so hated and then bam he could be the biggest hero i wonder what happens next ohmy.gif
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You're paying too much attention to the fact that they're Sannin. My point was they're on a completely different level than Obito, RETARD. And no, they're on a level where they can take way more physical punishment than most others. How many other shinobi do you think would survive a beating from Tsunade besides Jiraiya and Orochimaru(who are both at her level)? Obito? LOL. And how do you explain Jiraiya being able to move after being stabbed several times by Pain? I'm sure Obito would've been capable of that.

It took Orochimaru years to complete that jutsu. So far the manga hasn't show signs of anyone else knowing or even learning it. Who knows how Deidara got his second arm back, but body transfer is on a completely different level. And having some vital organs crushed doesn't exactly mean you'll die instantly, but it's obvious you won't live much longer than five minutes if the whole right side of your body is squashed.

Oh and good job contradicting yourself, dumbass. Why would someone of Pain's level describe the genjutsu as "incredible" if it wasn't? Where does he say Jiraiya is bad at genjutsu? And Tsunade's seal is aside from the point. She's obviously much stronger and you can't compare Obito's situation to her.

To further my point, If Madara needed a body, why the FUCK would he use Obito's when it's half crushed? For the Sharingan? No, he would need to transfer his MS. For the Uchiha blood? Doubt it, Kakashi does fine with a Sharingan(only held back by his small chakra capacity). So think about that for a couple minutes, idiot.


kabuto's only a jounin/anbu and he's able to withstand a bagoogle hits from tsunade.....the fat guy who escaped from prison took one of her hits too.......it dpeends on their will, if obito had a reason to live, yes he's gonna move and be capable of it.... it's just like when neji fought the spider guy... he took a high pressured hit from an arrow and was able to use juuken on the string which encroached over to the spider guy making him fall... neji fell down right after that.....and during that time he though of his reason why he can't die or loose right there and was able to force himself to get up and run to the spider guy to finish it..... kimimaru also shows that as long as you got a will and a reason to live, you can force your body to do anything, and i don't think i have to explain it.....btw you ever heard of artificial arms/legs? a guy in akatsuki has 9 hearts etc.....hidan can also live when he gets his head chopped off......there are a lot of unexplained mysteries and i wouldn't rule obito out just yet.

i'm pretty sure orochimaru stole that body transfer jutsu from the leaf village.... sarutobi when fighting orochimaru even said, " orochimaru, you didn't use that jutsu did you?" etc....also, the leaf village knows about the weakpoints to that body transfer jutsu too.... like it takes a couple of years before you can use that jutsu again and etc.... and i mentioned earlier there are a lot of unexplained things and not seen jutsus out ther.....if you looks at any of tobi's pictures, you'd realize that his body is always black... even his hands are black (gloves)... hm... why is he the only one in akatsuki that covers their body to that extent?? are you fuckin retarded? did you just ask me where does he say jiraiya is bad at genjutsu? read chapter 378 page 7 again dumbface

i can only post this much because my warns don't allow me to type too much, please check the second post as well before responding.
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Apr 29 2008 07:21pm

why can't i compare tsunade's situation with obito? i never fuckin said that obito was the one who healed himself up with miracles and i see that's where you're confused at... back in the debate, i said what's to say there's no one out there that can fix him up or some shit like that.....

that's one of my theories... theories aren't always correct, they're just what i think... and i think that way because maybe he would need a body of someone with uchiha blood to be capable of using the sharingan at it's full capacity.... y would u want to be weaker......kakashi does fine with his sharingan, but he does poorly with his mangekyou sharingan.... if he uses it for a while he has to stay in the hostiptal for a couple of weeks... if madara transfers to someone outside of his clan, after using the sharingan that much he would've been dead because he would've been unconscious on the ground before the enemy..... the recent chapters shows how often he uses his mangekyou sharingan.... he would definately not need someone outside of the clan so i don't see how you are fuckin comparing an sharingan uchiha with a sharingan outsider.....the differences beteween the two are obvious.

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Again, I'm merely stating they're a much higher level and can't be compared to Obito. Also a kid that rage posts in bold size 23 letters shouldn't be calling other people "kids."


jiraiya's level doesn't matter... he's still human and follows all of the physical consequences normal human would. you can't train your cells to withstand attacks.... you can try it yourself.... please train your cells (preferably the one on the wrist) and then grab a knife and cut the area the cell is located..... it doesn't work huh? the only thing u can do is endure so much damage in your lifetime that it either weakens your bones etc or your body tries to build upon it.....he's still human and follow all the conditions humans would follow

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Apr 29 2008 08:13pm
WRONG!

its all about the author!

IF HE WANTS THEM DEAD ON SPOT HE CAN MAKE IT!


not because of will to live or whatever

now please stop the raging!
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