Quote (napsterz0r @ Jan 28 2011 02:31am)

Since you guys doing a pointless debate, Ace died because he let himself stabed by Akainu hand. Why`? To save luffy obv.. If hes logia would remain active when he got hited by Akainu hes hand would pass trought him and hit luffy , thus he decided to save luffy whit the cost of hes life.You got trolled by akainu words and ace sacrifice. In  1v1 fight we all know it wouldnt have finish like this, even if we all know that in theory Ace fire just give  more heat to Akainu magma,thus making him more powerfull.Its a cartoon , you dont have to get a logic explanation for every move made by characters.


ps: As someone said yearlier , in this show Ace was created just as a filler in order to make luffy evolve, so trying to debate why the 'filler' died, and how its again pointless for me.



So lets get back to the story , dont think Carribo its realy the last enemy in this arc, all he wants is money, He came after strawhats to get their heads for money, once he got thoose mermaids he will proly run and try sell em. Those new fisherman pirates look more like a challange , in most of the arcs luffy and hes crew had a enemy from another crew..they have a dream and a purpose same as luffy.

Quote (napsterz0r @ Jan 28 2011 03:31am)

Since you guys doing a pointless debate, Ace died because he let himself stabed by Akainu hand. Why`? To save luffy obv.. If hes logia would remain active when he got hited by Akainu hes hand would pass trought him and hit luffy , thus he decided to save luffy whit the cost of hes life.You got trolled by akainu words and ace sacrifice. In  1v1 fight we all know it wouldnt have finish like this, even if we all know that in theory Ace fire just give  more heat to Akainu magma,thus making him more powerfull.Its a cartoon , you dont have to get a logic explanation for every move made by characters.

Quote (napsterz0r @ Jan 28 2011 03:31am)

So lets get back to the story , dont think Carribo its realy the last enemy in this arc, all he wants is money, He came after strawhats to get their heads for money, once he got thoose mermaids he will proly run and try sell em. Those new fisherman pirates look more like a challange , in most of the arcs luffy and hes crew had a enemy from another crew..they have a dream and a purpose same as luffy.

Quote (Eep @ Jan 28 2011 11:37pm)

I have 2 ideas in mind for caribou:


Either he will turn out to be a lot stronger and/or more destructive than we thought

or

He will be decimated by some other character, who in turn will end up fighting luffy. Aka, sacrificial pawn for a display of power.

Quote (Black487 @ Jan 28 2011 10:42pm)

Perhaps he could intentionally or indadvertedly frame the strawhats through the missing mermaids.  He seems like more so one of those annoying side characters then any real kind of a fighter. 

Your sacrificial pawn idea gets a some added validity due to caribou's high bounty from the government.

Quote (itzpookiie @ Jan 29 2011 12:16am)

are we still talking about ace's death
serious
hes dead
it doesnt matter how he did it
hes dead
end of arguement

Quote (shsheik @ Jan 28 2011 11:37pm)

just for argyement's sake, a good reason for ace deactivating his logia is:

fire is ethereal and can not stop anything going through it.
ace is protecting luffy, and needs to stop the fatal blow.
in order to use his body to do that, he cannot be in his flame state.


also, for carribou.
i just can't see him being a serious threat.
he was ready to run from the kraken, and got easily stuffed into a barrel nonchalantly.
the threat just doesnt seem to be being built up, especially when you consider how the crew is involved with the fishmen king.
the threat they're involved with is hody jones.

but his character has to be being developed for a reason.
maybe he will hurt friends of the strawhats, and they will chase him down, in order to lead to the next arc?