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Jan 27 2011 01:11pm
Quote (TR0LL @ Jan 27 2011 01:41pm)
you guys are overlooking this


fire is an optical illusion that expresses heat

fire needs 3 things

ignition
oxygen
fuel



obviously in this case ignition and fuel are taken by the df power

fuel being the power itself

and ignition being when ace activates it


a big characteristic of fire, is that it eats up oxygen, in order to remain fire


magma, is molten rock, it is dense, and has smothering capabilities

what happens when you smother fire?  it goes out

akainu smothered ace's fire, it went out


organs burned


byebye ace


Btw, this is exactly right. Sakazuki's lava starves aces flames of the oxygen necessary for fire. Aka, smothers it.



I hope we can all leave this debate behind us now.

This post was edited by Black487 on Jan 27 2011 01:11pm
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Jan 27 2011 01:16pm
you think they lack of oxygen, when they are outside???
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Jan 27 2011 01:19pm
Quote (undead_lord @ Jan 27 2011 03:16pm)
you think they lack of oxygen, when they are outside???


LOL.

It's the same concept as dropping a pile of sand on top of a flame.

The sand will smother the fire, removing contact to oxygen.

Look up the various definitions for "smother".

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Jan 27 2011 01:21pm
Quote (Black487 @ 27 Jan 2011 20:19)
LOL.

It's the same concept as dropping a pile of sand on top of a flame. 

The sand will smother the fire, removing contact to oxygen. 

Look up the various definitions for "smother". 

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with your theory, does it mean that ace's clothes will keep away o2 ?????
:bonk:

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Jan 27 2011 01:31pm
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with your theory, does it mean that ace's clothes will keep away o2 ?????
:bonk:


nope, because leather, and cotton are both oxygen permeable :)


and its not theory, its facts of life

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Jan 27 2011 01:40pm
Quote (undead_lord @ Jan 27 2011 03:21pm)
with your theory, does it mean that ace's clothes will keep away o2 ?????
:bonk:


In this cartoon sakazuki can fully become lava (clothes included) and then transform back into a human, forming his clothes once again from the lava.

In reality, the light clothes that ace likes to wear would likely just burn up. Some of what Oda writes has to be science fiction or without explanation because otherwise his characters would be nude whenever they erupted into flame or lava.

But the rest of it is clearly explanable. Nothing what I've told you isn't a fact: Sakazuki's lava reaching higher temperatures than red / orange fire. The highly viscous lava having smothering abilities over fire (smother meaning removing oxygen supply).

These are all middle school level science explanations. I shouldn't even be debating this with you


:bonk: Right back at ya unfortunately.

Quote (TR0LL @ Jan 27 2011 03:31pm)
nope, because leather, and cotton are both oxygen permeable :)


and its not theory, its facts of life


This too. We'd have to suppose (for the sake of argument) your devil fruit conveniently assumes your clothing is part of your body thus allows you to transform it at will. This could partially explain Ace's fire having a fresh supply of oxygen. Here's another thought:



ace almost isn't wearing any clothes.

He's shirtless and wears loose, flowing shorts which would allow plenty of air flow.

But this point doesn't matter because we're assuming the devil fruit considers your clothes as part of your body. How else could you turn your whole body into fire or lava and then come back with your clothes fully in tact?

This post was edited by Black487 on Jan 27 2011 01:42pm
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Jan 27 2011 02:17pm
Quote (TR0LL @ Jan 27 2011 08:03pm)
also manga discussion


when the weird prediction lady said that luffy would be the cause of the destruction of FI 

what if caribou destroys it, and luffy is at fault for bringing him?


doubt Caribou is that strong
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Jan 27 2011 02:25pm
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doubt Caribou is that strong


No clue how strong he actually is.

But they've kept him around this long for some reason.

Plus there is something mysterious about him seemingly absorbing the mermaids. Yet he commends how they're somehow still alive?

One thing is for sure we don't know the full extend of his logia yet, and that means anything is sort of possibles still.
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Jan 27 2011 03:03pm
Quote (Black487 @ 27 Jan 2011 21:25)
No clue how strong he actually is. 

But they've kept him around this long for some reason. 

Plus there is something mysterious about him seemingly absorbing the mermaids.  Yet he commends how they're somehow still alive?

One thing is for sure we don't know the full extend of his logia yet, and that means anything is sort of possibles still.


he didnt "absorb" them

he can make people sink down into his swamp and make them lose consciousness
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Jan 27 2011 03:05pm
my guess is he is using them for slave market trade
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