Once again, you're basing all of your information off an old version of superman.... He doesn't need a sun at all once he's ascended. He's at maximum power at all times and he is a fucking god.

Here's the problem man. You're basing everything you're saying off opinion, while I'm basing everything I'm saying off actual facts from what the characters have been able to do in comic books. DB uses a weak version of SM, not the most OP version which is the 60s version where he literally destroyed galaxies by sneezing, but they didn't even use ascended SM, because it wouldn't be a fair fight, he would straight one hit goku if he hit him at full.

Do some fucking research if you're going to talk about this kind of stuff. I loathe Superman and I somehow know 100x more than the self proclaimed "big superman fan". How the hell can you call yourself a fan and think he needs a sun at this point in the character's development?

This post was edited by jadeoshbogosh on Feb 23 2017 01:46pm

Lol calm down bro not a fucking huge nerd like you apparently. i know about ascended superman for fucksakes but last vid iwatched they never put him up against god goku. I personally despise fucking people like you who cant even have a civilized discussion without getting all worked up insulting ppl. You talk about facts but its writers and they can change shit all the time. As they do in comics. You wanna be honest to lets compare real world facts. Some fighters or sports team will have better stats than the other. But when they actually go up against another the team/fighter that was supposed to win got tuned. Say what you want this is all fantasy and shit can go whatever way. I got my opinion and im entitled to it so just go ahead and lose your shit about it im waiting.

^ what makes you think I'm worked up? You just keep making one stupid point after another. As being nice wasn't working, I thought talking down to you might get the point across and it obviously has since your panties are twisted up hard now.

The conversation was plenty civil, and I've kept it that way. It's just funny to me that anyone can be this dense. I thought for sure goku would win, bit after researching the feats of both characters, it's painfully obvious which has the edge in every single category. It's not at all debatable

Your stance has gone from Goku is stronger and faster and he would use instant transmission, to, well, we don't know what would happen,if they wrote it and I think he'd win.

The question isn't what would happen if they did a crossover, because obviously they'd pretend it was close in that situation, but based off the information we have, who would win. That would be superman, by a million miles.

This post was edited by jadeoshbogosh on Feb 23 2017 02:18pm

Ok i respect your opinion on it i for one am done.

And I'm the one who's worked up.

Don't go down that rabbit hole guys

success

here superman just take this ring

holy shit there are essays about which one is stronger LOL

will always be a fight but at end of the day this guy owns them all